We’ll be confirming whether or not we’re doing the shows we were eyeing in this space. For those of you who aren’t familiar with our simulcast policies, we almost certainly will not pick up shows that are simulcasted less than 12 hours late at HQ resolutions (i.e. 720p).
Confirmed: Kyoukai no Kanata, White Album 2
Abandoned: Golden Time, Little Busters Refrain
Sorry to let you guys down. If you like walls of text, I have tried to articulate reasons why after the gap.
Kyoukai no Kanata – simulcast at Crunchyroll one hour after airtime. The team still wants to push ahead with this, though (with an original translation), so I guess you can expect releases ~8-12 hours after airtime.
Golden Time – simulcast at Crunchyroll two hours after airtime. I (and the team) really, really wanted to work on it, but the negligible simulcast delay and our very busy weekday schedules make picking this up an unwise decision. We kinda had a shounen power-up scene in the staff room and are thinking about doing it anyway. If we do, we’ll probably end up doing this relatively slowly (probably within 24 hours of airtime) and have fun doing it. I’m afraid we’re not going to sub this show. In addition to the aforementioned reasons of negligible simulcast delay and a very busy weekday schedule (I actually just got back from 9 hours of classes today), this is a 2-cour show and therefore would be a huge commitment (at least 5-6 hours every week for half a year, to put it into perspective). Subbing it would require time that I can barely spare, so even though I loved what I had read of the novel so far and enjoyed watching the first anime episode, I’ve made the decision to prioritize my academics, social life, and well-being over re-subbing a show that will already have subs.
The CR subs aren’t exactly great, but it’s decent enough for casual viewing. I really, really did want to sub Golden Time, but I guess some things just aren’t meant to be.
Little Busters Refrain – Simulcast at Crunchyroll two hours after airtime. The reasons behind the decision to not pick this up are similar to why we won’t be doing Golden Time. Picking up LB Refrain would mean committing a hefty chunk of our time (in my case, since I’d be participating in the entire subbing process from start to end, at least 5-6 hours straight of subtitling work every week) for the duration of the show. Going against a simulcast with such a short delay pretty much amounts to reinventing the wheel, and while the Kyoukai no Kanata team was willing to do that, nobody in the LB team feels that it’s worth it.
White Album 2 – Simulcast at CR (is there anything worthwhile that isn’t simulcast at CR these days?) 90 minutes after airtime. This will actually be quite a special project for me, because the first TV anime series I ever translated was White Album Second Season exactly four years ago. This airs over the weekend which fits our schedules much better, and we believe the show will benefit from song translations (more important than you’d think!) and our having played the VN this is based on. We estimate a 12-24 hour turnaround for this show.
Excellent, i am looking forward to Kyoukai no Kanata.
Sorry about the confusing format I used earlier. Consider a show listed above to be picked up if there is no news of any HQ simulcasts less than 12 hours after airtime being announced by the time the show airs on TV in Japan.
I really wanted to see UTW pick up Golden Time too. Shame.
I don’t really have any series I want to watch this season besides LB Refrain. Moar Kurugaya.
I think Blazblue: Alter Memory would be right down your guys’ alley.
So, Raze, are you implying that, if CR doesn’t make a good translation or whatever, you gonna pick up that show? For example, Little Busters! Refrain.
I’d really like to see your work on LB! again.
Too bad for Golden Time; it would have been great if you released your version. Anyways, expecting a good work (as always) with Little Busters and Kyoukai No Kanata.
White Album Season 1 is unlicensed, so no one will license Season 2 and simulcast. Kyoukai no Kanata is the most likely future Funimation license as its a Kyoani show. And Little Busters Refrain will go to Sentai Filmworks.
Given that all 3 shows are due to be shown within the next 5 days in Japan, I doubt very much you’ll have a problem Razeo!
Was actually hoping for you guys to do golden time, but whatever, yay simulcasts.
Revelations: Don’t want to watch Kill la Kill?
what a shame. i wanted to watch golden time subbed by UTW. Hopefully Kyoukai no Katana won’t have the same fate.
PLEASE PLEASE do Kyoukai no Katana
Oh, I thought CR’s simulcast of Golden Time was one day late.
The official site [1] says “10月3日より 毎週木曜日 深夜2：35～3：05” (Oct. 3rd, late night 2:35)
CR [2] says “October 3 at 12:30 pm Pacific Time”, which I’m converting to JST as Oct. 4th, late night 4:30.
I’m probably wrong, seeing as this timezone juggling stuff gives me a headache, but if someone can point out why I’m wrong I would be grateful.
[1] http://golden-time.jp/onair/
[2] http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/09/30/crunchyroll-to-stream-golden-time-anime
hopefully you guys do LB refraind and Kyoukai no Katana 😀
Wish you guys would do Galilei Donna 🙁
idk what group will do this show…
Please don’t let just simulcast be a reason to drop something if you have the resources, some of us don’t have simulcast available to us at all.
I understand if you’re too busy, but some of us don’t have alternatives 😐
I feel like three shows is just about the perfect number for you guys. It enables you to put enough dedication to subbing the show while still leaving you a good amount of free-time. Looking forward to another season full of UTW goodness.
Oh, and please kill Daiz. kthxbye.
I’m really hoping you guys do LB Refrain<3 You guys are simply the best and most reliable option out there and Refrain deserves nothing but the best.
Really hoping you guys could do Kyoukai hnghg
Could you sub IS: Infinite Stratos 2?
shame about Golden Time – will see if it gets ripped by HS and amended by the guys over at Commie
hoping that they dont go and mooch everything from your list D:
not seen anyone announing IS2 yet, but only time will tell
please golden timee ;_;
Hopefully, Kyoukai no Kanata’s gonna be done by you guys. That’s the only show I’ll be watching week by week this fall.
please just hold on to kyoukai no kanata, not looking forward to anything else this season!! thank you for your hard work always.
what about Fate Cafe?
That’s too bad about Golden Time. Was the show I was most looking forward to out of your proposed offerings.
Re: “shame about Golden Time – will see if it gets ripped by HS and amended by the guys over at Commie”, I wouldn’t be so sure about Commie’s CR edits being “amendments” anymore. Not after the crap they pulled with Servant x Service. Their Stella trollscripts don’t exactly fill me with confidence in their quality either. Since the group has multiple editors and (when available) translators who tackle their shows, it’ll really boil down to who Commie assigns to Golden Time as to whether or not they’ll be an upgrade from CrunchyRoll.
To any company who’s going to license Kyoukai no Kanata: I gonna kill you all!
Why don’t you guys do Yozakura Quartet or Magi?
Would’ve loved to see UTW pick up Kill La Kill. Oh well, c’est la vie~ now to find my second favorite subbers. I don’t want to resort to HorribleSubs, but I may have to.
Looks like Crunchyroll going to simulcast Kyoukai no Kanata, it seems the simulcast is one hour after airtime. CMIIW.
What ever happen to Mazui? Don’t they like doing Kyoto Animation shows?
A question since it was never mentioned in the release post for the final episode (which is unusual for you guys…): Will you guys be doing the BD’s for Prisma Illya?
Really sucks that kyoukai no kanata is getting simulcasted. Was really looking forward to seeing you guys sub it since you guys are the best!!
>shame about Golden Time – will see if it gets ripped by HS and amended by the guys over at Commie.
They don’t amend anything. They break things.
Still sucks to hear that as I would even prefer a UTW edit and ts polish. This is all hoping it’s as good as I hope it is.
fuck
yeah
>We kinda had a shounen power-up scene in the staff room and are thinking about doing it anyway.
TYBUTW
Kusion, I thought you died.
I was sad, but now I’m overjoyed at the news.
If you guys do decided to pick up Golden Time, be it 24 hours or 24 days, I’ll gladly wait for your releases.
I’m really really happy to see you guys consider still picking up Golden Time. Truth be told it’s the only show I’m seriously looking forward to this season and I’d be a shame if we had to settle with Crunchyroll. I really hope you’ll all decide to do it. It would literally make my season.
F*** crunchyroll and their region blocking!! I can see you guys do twice a better job than those asshats.
Dear UTW –
Now that this season is winding down, how about finishing PETIT GARGANTIA ???
Love,
ajinowah
@ajinowah
Or the Chuu2 OVA?
DAIZ I KNOW YOU’RE HERE.
> Kyoukai no Kanata – simulcast at Crunchyroll one hour after airtime. The team still wants to push ahead with this, though (with an original translation), so I guess you can expect releases ~8-12 hours after airtime.
*smug*
Just fucking sub Ippo instead of wasting your time on simulcasted stuff, holy shit.
You guys are a group I hold in high regard, so I don’t understand the redundancy of subbing shows that are going to get subbed anyway instead of waiting to see what DOESN’T get simulcasted and then see about subbing one of those. It’s like you just chose these four shows and refuse to do anything else even though they’ll probably all be simulcasted.
Fansubbing is a hobby, so fansub groups should first and foremost work on shows that they’re interested in. Subbing shows that you don’t really like just because you feel obligated to get them done is a bad idea and one of the most common causes of subs that are late, low quality, or stalled forever.
It’s better for fansubbers to work on shows that they actually like, and it’s better for the consumer as well because they know they’ll receive a higher quality product that was put together by genuine fans of the series. After all, it’s _fan_subbing.
Don’t listen to all the butthurt fags and just keep subbing what you want. That’s what counts the most.
That’s the plan.
yay for Golden Time…
shounen power-up to the max..
appreciate you guys still doing Golden Time and Kyoukai no Kanata!. even if its 1 day behind, still worth the wait. 🙂
omg, kyoukai no kanata confirmed
so HYPE !!
thanks a lot utw
Would gladly wait as long as it takes for UTW subs. Hell, I usually just pick up whatever you guys are subbing that season.
YES, my prayers have been heard, glad that nothing is dropped. Thank UTW.
LOL, a Shounen Power-up?
Thanks for picking up Kyoukai no Kanata! Just a few hours left before it airs and I’m so fucking excited…and I just can’t hide it!
Wont mind waiting a day or two to get a better translation for Golden Time.
And ty for picking Kyokai no Kanata!!
I never watch simulcast and always wait for sub group releases anyways.
thanks for golden time :))
>translating simul’d shows
we doki now
nisemono and other monogatari when?
pick Coppelion if possible 🙂
Rather looking forward to Kyoukai no Kanata, and Golden Time if you choose to do it 😀
yaaay, awesome 😀
I am glad you doin that. In my coutry there is no crunchy-roll
Disgraceful. You guys obviously don’t give a shit about whether a show gets simulcasted or not so stop pretending like you do.
Who cares if it’s released after the simulcast when your subs are so good? plus simulcasts lol
If we do, we’ll probably end up doing this relatively slowly (probably within 24 hours of airtime)
I wish other groups’ fast releases were even close to what you consider slow…
You guys need Oppai Dragon power up.
huehuehue.
Will you guys be doing the BD’s of Prisma Illya?
I know you don’t have it listed under “Tentative”, but do you have any thoughts on doing a Kyousogiga project? The episode released today was just the first ONA redone in 720p, as far as I could tell from the Raw. I’m a little anxious that no groups will be picking this up (since it appears most have not said anything about it, and I believe it’s not simulcasted).
Oh, Fansubdb just updated apparently and it lists a few groups for it. I would have preferred your subs, but sorry to have asked.
@dirtyred, it’s better to bookmark several fanubbing sites and check them out from time to time.
Also, Kyousogiga lies in very competent hands.
I should have been checking directly with the fansubbers’ sites rather than with fansubdb. My mistake, hopefully won’t make it again.
Shounen power uppu! Personally I just want quality eye candies *A*. Monogatari sounds awesome if ever considered~
Thank you so much for deciding to sub Golden Time. I won’t mind waiting another day just for your subs.
who watches CR subs anyway?!
Is there a site anywhere that shows airtimes for all anime series each season?
uguu
@Ashitaka if you use my anime list i suggest the MALupdater app (My Anime List Updater ) there’s a tab with he show times. http://myanimelist.net/ http://www.malupdater.com/ ( <3 MALupdater)
If not, there's some webpages with the airing times, such as :
http://www.mahou.org/Showtime/
http://animecalendar.net/
@Ashitaka
http://fansubdb.com/
Looking forward to your Golden Time subs! Take your time!
Will you be doing Little Busters Refrain with Mazui like the first season? UTW-Mazui is such a great pairing.
@Ashitaka
Better site for airing times is animecalendar.net
kyoukai no kanata!!!!!!!
im happy and satisfied
“>translating simul’d shows
we doki now”
if editing simulcasted shows,,
we became commie..
Excuse me, did anybody know where I can complain? I can’t found any email address, facebook, or twitter site so I was forced to register. If somebody know, please call me in my email address: wnandi77@yahoo.co.id. My facebook address is https://www.facebook.com/nandi.wardhana1. My twitter account is @magna_n.
please don’t abandon any! i don’t care if its always a week or 2 late, but UTW subs are worth waiting for! especially little busters refrain, after the first season i was rly looking forward to this one!
Is there somebody can I contact in this website? I want to complain about Amagami SS
Will you guys be doing the BD’s of Prisma Illya?
Have you thought about 1080p? The HorribleSub releases look pretty decent and better than any 720p I’ve seen. So I thought that it would be about time to improve the quality to 1080p.
No Blazblue?
Thank the lords for your shounen power-up scene in the staff room. You people are my heroes. Thank you so much for hanging onto Golden Time.
CR will simulcast LB less than 12 hours late. D: pls do it anyways.
don’t quit from refrain!!
Best airing site: http://anichart.net/airing
pls don’t abandoned Little Busters ~refrain~. i don’t mind if the subs come out late or not. just pls don’t abandoned it
pls don’t drop Little Busters, I loved the work you did in previous season.
Nuuuu, everyone wants to ride the UTW train for Little Busters ~Refrain~ !!!
oh no, not the little busters…. i admit i didn’t like the first season much, but after hearing all the hype about refrain route it too much of a shame to just abandon it now. if its about not having enough time, you can take all the time you need as it surly will span 2 seasons and not just one.
Wait, I’m confused- are you guys still doing Golden Time or what?
Oh God no. Please don’t drop LB Refrain ;_;
Awww, the best part of LB not getting the best subs that would justify it is going to be a sad experience. ;_;
Even though I hated the way you guys translated LB’s “MUSCLE YAY YAY” to “MUSCLES AWW YEAH”, it’s a shame we won’t be seeing any more of that. I doubt Crunchyroll would do it any better.
Please sub Blaz Blue Alter Memory (^_^)
I want to say something; to let out this frustration, but I just can’t. Raze’s reasons are completely understandable and something any sane being would do. Am I disappointed (by the fact itself, not by UTW)? Definitely. But even though I’ll accept the group’s decision and be grateful for the shows they’re doing.
I was planning to cut back on watching anime anyway, so this comes in handy.^^
NUUUUUU ;_; LB refrain is abandoned……now my hope is shattered.
anyone know any other good sub for it? i really dont want to resort to CR…..
i think the show that should be abandoned is Kyoukai no kanata as it get oversubbed…..
besides its first episode fail to leave a great expectation for me.
Looks like there’s only CR subs for Golden time….*sigh*
>LB is dropped
what the fuck 🙁 oh well
CR subs, time for more Eoten madness! I’m going to go cry now…
“I’ve made the decision to prioritize my academics, social life, and well-being over re-subbing a show that will already have subs.”
Understandable, but Kyoukai no Kanata is being done by four other groups. Golden Time isn’t. I don’t see why you would choose an oversubbed show over another that wasn’t even picked up by any group.
well whatever, wasn’t expecting anything from you guys anyway. You’ve always let me down at the beginning of each season. Thanks for providing quality subs for KnK, I guess.
lol for golden time ==
@ Stone River / Shirou_Saku
Kyoukai no Kanata got the go-ahead but not Golden Time because the teams working on them are different. The brunt of the Kyoukai no Kanata subbing work is handled by my willing teammates (I simply QC/apply QC and put everything together). On the other hand, for Golden Time, I would also be translating on top of coordinating the subbing as well as QCing, meaning at least 5-6 hours of work in total over a period of perhaps 8-12 hours, not to mention I’d have to somehow slot that around my classes as well. Given that, it’s really sheer madness to go against a simulcast, especially since I’d have to do this every week, juggling my medical school studying and other commitments, all the way up to my do-or-die Year 2 finals in May next year.
It breaks my heart to drop Golden Time, but it’s definitely the smarter choice. Maybe we’ll do the BDs for it. Maybe.
Really sad to hear about Golden Time. That was the one I was most looking forward to from you. Little Busters I can take it or leave it. I wasn’t that impressed by the first season, so having to use CR scrips won’t bother me if that ends up being the case.
Oh well, looks like nothing on tap from you guys for me this season. 🙁
Would you guys still do LB Refrain anyways? That is, BD releases when they come out.
@Raze
oh, I see. Didn’t think you’d be doing more work if it was Golden Time. I initially thought you guys divided work equally. Thanks for the clarification.
I’ll just have to deal with HS’ release for Golden Time, I guess. Or until some other group decides to pick it up.
LB refrain: dont abandoned it yet (just ask for more details on Mazui Side not your side) on Season 1 you did great on that maybe you could ask help for subbing LB refrain?(instead being a UTW-Mazui changed it Mazui-UTW this time for LOLS)
GT: maybe it could have chances if you find a group that will help UTW(if decison pretty the same i will Respect on it)
Kanata: its good show but so many subbers to choose from(good luck on that)
White Album:(i did not watch first but i heard 2nd is good but i smelll something not right on animation for this one)
Nooooooooooooo, I wanted LB! Refrain from you guys D:
Fucking sucks that LB is abandoned, I was really looking forward to it.
OC vibes tingling but it’s okay. We all have priorities.
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Why UTW? I Really Liked how you guys did the first part of Little Busters!…and I kind of understand how the team didn’t really ‘appreciate’ working on it, I agree as well that Key didn’t to a very good job adapting shit from the VN…but Refrain is, was and will always be the best part of Little Busters! I just wanted to have the best part of Little Busters! subbed by the best subbers…I really respected you guys…
OH MY GOD, I am just shocked to see you guys are planning to sub White Album2. Thanks a lot guys! I hope you will do it!
You are one of my best fansub group to date and I’ve never disappointed with your work. So seeing you guys planning to do the one series I love so much is just..wow!
Raze, do your answers for not subbing Golden Time mean that you’re effectively out this season and that UTW has no qualified translators, just an assortment of CrunchyRoll script QCers? Or does it mean that the group does still have someone who speaks Japanese at or near your level of proficiency but that they simply don’t want to do Golden Time? Curious simply because you were like 50% of what made UTW worth donating to.
I also don’t understand the logic that you have time to touch up a CR script for Kyoukai no Kanata but not a CR script for Golden Time. Would it really be 5-6 hours a week to fix CR’s goofs? That stated, this is basically Commie’s entire line of work nowadays so it’s not like we’d *need* you to do this, provided Commie doesn’t assign one of their troll or cowboy editors to the task.
Regardless of the above, I definitely think you’ve made the right decision to place your medical studies ahead of fansubbing. Good luck with everything and thanks for the years’ worth of competent translations you’ve given us.
No Little Busters Refrain? Oh… I’m pretty sad now. Too bad. I hope another decent fansub will prevent me from going with CR.
You did LB but dropped Refrain? Because it will be on garbage streaming site faster than you can do it? UTW becomes more and more fail every day.
No Little Busters Refrain…I’m falling into depression now…Oh well, I can see why you made the decision, so I have no choice but to respect that, get over it, and hope that there will be any other good groups doing it…Sigh…Also, again, for the umptenth time (somebody please just answer me already!), will you do the Prisma Illya BD’s? You never mentioned whether or not you would in your last Prisma Illya release post.
Noooo Refrain got dropped 🙁
@ Tal
UTW definitely has other “qualified” translators that I trust and could handle Golden Time; it’s just that they’re aren’t free to work on it because they’re either already working on another Thursday show or have school/work etc. Not to mention that UTW as a group usually makes it a point to avoid shows that are simulcasted with such short delays; Kyoukai no Kanata is definitely an exception rather than the norm.
It seems that you think we’re editing CR for Kyoukai no Kanata, but we’re not. Our script was done from scratch and worked on by fansubbers that I know and trust i.e. they’re good and know what they’re doing. It’d also take me considerably longer to touch up a CR script than a homebrewed one; I estimate it’d take me 1-2 hours to TLC/edit CR’s Golden Time script, yes, but that’s not all. There are sign translations, sign checking, checking other people’s edits, yelling at people, nitpicking stuff, putting everything together, applying QC, doing a QC of my own etc. It all adds up and I can forsee myself easily spending at least 4-5 hours a week just putting together a worthy enough CR edit to call our own, which, if you consider that I spent the larger part of my day today at school, is still too much time.
Let’s not forget that committing to a show is also a burden and a source of stress; every week, on that day, I’d have to deal with that voice at the back of my head telling me I should be subbing Show X instead of doing some much-needed studying, seeing my buddies, getting some drinks, earning some money, extracurricular activities, etc. Now, I wouldn’t mind any of this if I didn’t strongly feel I was wasting my time, but it’s difficult not to feel that way when you’re going against a legally licensed simulcast that releases before you even get a raw to watch and work off of.
At any rate, thank you for your well wishes and for being understanding.
Sad to hear that you guys dropped Golden Time since I was really looking forward to that from you guys, but thanks for giving us a reason and not just “forgetting” about it. I wish you all the best with your studies!
CHEAP TRICKS!
The problem with crunchyroll is those eye-cancer inducing streams. I’ am fine with the subs, but I can’t handle the video quality… I guess I’ll have to extract the subs ans watch with some raw. I hope they match the timing.
Man. I was really looking forward to Golden Time too. CR subs I can tolerate since it’s not really all that bad. The Quality. Man the quality I really don’t like, but I can still tolerate cause it’s also not all that bad. But the 1 week waiting period for non-membership people. That’s what gets to me. I really don’t wanna use Horrible Subs, but I’ll make an exception this time since it’s Golden Time.
UTW still my favorite fan subbers though. That’s why they’re first on my bookmarks bar.
Can you guys just finish the Chuu2 OVA without Daiz please, it’s been long enough.
Golden Time dropped. Abandon all hope.
Oh well, I understand that UTW can’t take much projects this season because of Raze’s studies.
Although I hate to admit that Golden Time is all dropped, I think Raze made the logical decision: the decision to prioritize his studies.
Good luck on your studies, man! And be sure to grab more projects once you’re done with you studies, okay?
aw…LB :(. CR subs are pretty bad too so I need to find someone else now T_T
That’s a bummer. I wouldn’t have mind if the eps were like a week behind if that’s what had to be done for you to do them (especially LB). But alas complaining is pointless so I’ll just be sobbing over here in the corner over no golden times or Little Busters for you guys T__T.
Sucks that you won’t be doing refrain, but will you be doing the OVA that came out a while back?
THAT is why i say UTW needs to EXPAND their teams, get more ppl, or join/borrow/co-op/etc. with other groups so that you have more capacity to sub more animes, instead of just u the leader tanking all the workloads.
On another note, if UTW is still teamed up with Mazui for LB Refrain, i dont mind joining and working as a TL/TLC/QC just for LB Refrain, or other posts like TS or Encoder if some one is willing to teach me how to do these two.
Honestly there are a TON of ppl, me included, who just want to see LB Refrain being done from UTW, EVEN IF it means its not speed-rushed but rather just slowly released several hours later after air-time.
So many fucking ungrateful whiners in here. If I were in medical school, I sure wouldn’t be taking hours out of my schedule to sub a show that already has a decent translation for people who clearly don’t appreciate anything either.
I understand that you want to prioritize your studies and not get hindered by subbing shows but (I hope you don’t feel insulted by this) me and pretty sure a lot of people here are willing to wait for a few days for decent subs for LB. It doesn’t really matter if we watch this today or tomorrow as long as we are still able to watch it. So even though I am a very selfish person by asking this, don’t drop LB or maybe ask Mazui to do the bulk of the work? (I hope they won’t mind)
It was the Mazui leader who made the final decision to drop Refrain. If you remember, they abandoned the second season of what was perhaps their favorite show ever, Oreimo S2, for the same reason (CR simulcast).
I’m afraid there’s no room for reconsideration here.
@ UTWfan
That’s not the problem. I could hire 20 more staff and sub 15 shows a week like certain other big groups do, but then I wouldn’t be able to control the quality anymore. Fact of the matter is, I’d probably still have to look over at least the final product either way. I’d rather not release stuff that’s not up to standard just because people want subs under the same label, not to mention there would be no point to the label anyway if it won’t be the same team from last time working on it.
@ Raze
but maybe thats why u should train newcomers to be on the same quality lvl as ur label when they join.
well if u say there is NO reconsideration on Refrain what-so-ever, then i have nothing to say. but if, even if, u still have a little bit of desire of wanting to do it regardless of simulcast and just release it later than airtimes, and if u dont mind having someone join to do the work for u, please reconsider.
All hope is lost.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant say I’m not disappointed but I guess it cant be help. You guys have a life too…sob…and I understand how hard you have to juggle between this and RL. Good luck anw. We’ll always support you guys!
Good luck with school Raze!
And so Golden Time won’t be given the time of day by a single subbing group. What really saddens me is that you guys basically reserved the show for yourselves and backed out right before it aired ensuring no one else would pick it up because they already planned on doing other shows. Sure nothing would be stopping them from subbing the same show as you but a lot of groups like to sub shows that aren’t being subbed by anyone else than CR. What’s worse is by saying “The CR subs aren’t exactly great, but it’s decent enough for casual viewing.” You essentially called our last hope subpar. It was unnecessary to dishearten those who were really looking forward to Golden Time like that.
Those things may not have been your intention but that’s the result of what came of your actions.
Dear FFF,
Please help UTW for KnK project. FTW!
Sincerly,
Fans.
I really like the Golden Time but oh well.. We understand you guys. You need also time for yourselves.
Thanks for the support, guys. It means a lot to me and the team.
@ People asking for [FTW] Kyoukai no Kanata
A FTW joint for Kyoukai no Kanata is NOT happening. Please don’t bother our friends at FFF or us about it.
@ UTWfan
Nobody trained me, and nobody trained many of the best fansubbers I’ve worked with. UTW has always operated by inviting talented and dedicated individuals to join and contribute. Also, if I had the time to train a fresh newcomer, I should probably be using that time to sub what I want (i.e. Golden Time etc.)
@ Star Boy
But that isn’t true at all. We decided as a group that we’d do Kyoukai no Kanata at least two months ago, our friends in other groups knew about it, and we announced our interest in it at the same time we announced our interest in Golden Time. That didn’t stop at least four other groups jumping onto KnK as well, did it?
Ahh, what a shame.. Good luck with your study Raze..
So, we just have Horriblesubs and Commie for Golden Time..
honestly bummed about Golden Time especially after your comments that the subs aren’t up to par. But would rather you all not kill yourselves ie burn out. Could care less about LB. First season was mediocre as hell and don’t expect a whole lot of improvement from this arc. Hope I’m wrong.
For the one who take charge in this fansub, mr Raze or anybody else. I want to ask about one of your releases Amagami SS, I already click your torrent and so far has already download 4 episodes of it. The direct download can’t be opened, my real problem starts in the torrent. Your torrent haven’t give any seed or peers for almost a week, could someone explain about it? I need an immediate and reasonable answer, until I have an answer I will beg you everyday.
Surely you aren’t comparing Kyoukai no Kanata, a KyoAni show to Golden Time in terms of popularity, now are you. I don’t think there’s any need for me to further explain that some groups like subbing shows no one else will sub. After all, didn’t you just cite that Mazui didn’t sub “their favorite show ever, Oreimo” for that exact reason? There’s no reason to play dumb.
Still perhaps I got a little ahead of myself when making that post. From the looks of things no one else was subbing it and Horrible Subs audio (and apparently translation according to you) wasn’t quite up to par. It seems as though Commie is subbing it now. Either they recently updated their site today or I somehow just missed it, in which case I do apologize. While Commie isn’t what I’d personally call idea having options on the show you ‘abandoned’ (your words, not mine) and the subs you condemned is certainly nice. At the very least the audio issues and the usual visual quality of CR won’t be an issue with Commie.
Anyway, I do respect your decision not to sub it, you simply have more important real life issues to attend to but, I think you should have made that decision a while ago. And stringing us along by updating your post to say you hard a change of heart only to change it a few hours(?) later was even more heart breaking.
Respecting the group’s choices, but I got to say slightly disappointed by the fact that UTW will only be subbing one anime series in this season. I’ve pretty much been following the groups because of the quality and the speed you guys have been promising.
@ Star Boy
Sure, perhaps our announcement scared away some groups who were on the fence about picking up Golden Time, but it should have little effect on groups who were serious about doing it. That, and the ridiculous number of groups that have jumped on the same train despite our early announcement, was the point I was trying to make with KnK.
You’ve also completely misconstrued the reason Mazui didn’t do Oreimo S2; they dropped it because it was being simulcasted by CR. If they had been going against some other group, any other group at all, they definitely would’ve pushed ahead with it. Similarly, I was willing to spend what would pretty much be the whole of my Friday outside of school every week to sub a series I figured I would enjoy, but the whole venture amounts to a waste of time I technically don’t have when said show is simulcasted.
Just so everyone knows, I actually did start translating the first episode before leaving for classes that morning; I got about 5 minutes into the episode with the 15 or so minutes that I had. It felt like a huge waste of time. I had 9 hours of classes yesterday, and my weekdays are generally going to be like that. I honestly couldn’t find a good reason to go against a simulcast other than “it’d be cool to do it”. And I could think of plenty of reasons not to, so I made the final decision to drop it. It wasn’t my intention to be wishy-washy, and I realize many of you are disappointed; I apologize for that. Believe me, I’m heartbroken too. If I could choose my fansubbing swan song (which is looking more and more likely, as fansubbing seems to have entered a twilight era of sorts, and my medical school workload is only going to increase from here on), I don’t think I could’ve picked a better series than Golden Time.
I was not aware of the broken audio, but I’m quite sure that issue will be fixed for subsequent episodes (in fact, it’s probably already fixed on CR now). As for the script, it’s honestly good enough for casual viewing. The general accuracy is there, and the problems with it aren’t going to affect your enjoyment of the series as a whole. If it were really that bad that I felt it was worth reinventing the wheel, then we probably wouldn’t be having this discussion right now.
I’ll end this comment by saying that it’s not necesarily a bad thing that CR is practically simulcasting everything these days. You can all get your decently subbed anime within a couple hours of their airtimes in Japan, and you won’t have to deal with shows going unsubbed, fansub delays/incompetence, and the like. As fansubbers, we may have the duty of providing subtitles for the rest of the non-Japanese-speaking community, but when legal, speedy, and decent alternatives exist, it’s only logical for us to step back into the crowd and enjoy anime as part of the viewership.
Too bad you aren’t doing Little Busters Refrain after doing the first season. I assume you’re most likely going to be doing White Album then since one show this season seems a bit low?
Hello. Any chance you would do Freezing? I really would like great subs (yours) on this one. thanks.
Raze, that last comment of yours is making me feel depressed (talking about your swan song and whatnot). Imagining UTW as a group without you seems like the epitome of wrong. Hopefully those words were just said in the heat of the moment, and the fanbase will have you for a little longer than the current season (off the top of my head, ufotable’s version of F/SN literally screams your name).
And while I somewhat agree that CR offers a decent service, it’s ultimately that last bit of dedication that subbing groups put in, that makes their versions the better ones; UTW in particular. It’s in our nature to long for the best product out there, which, if given the chance, we gladly lunge at.
I can understand that you cannot do shows that do not match in your shedule. I do not have enough time to do any fansubbing because of work, so…
Only sad thing is, even if Crunchyroll has a good enough translation – many shows are not available to all regions.
On the other hand… there still are ways to get it via another way.
Maybe you have got enough time to do some nice silly shorts like Miss Monochrome. First episode was fun, yet only 4 minutes. ^^
what i really hate about crunchyroll is the fact that karaoke nor OP/ED are every translated, and i find openinggs/endings very important, even if most nowadays are not that good.
And that is why i will prefer anything to crunchy 99% of the time, unless it spells hadena/gg.
Please work on Samurai Flamenco or Meganebu!
I hope you the best of luck in your studies then Raze-sama! Just do what you think and believe is right for you because we cannot force our wishes upon you since we are indebted to you already bu giving us awesome subs for the past years. =)) Kio Tsukete! きおつけて
It might (really) be conceited of me saying this, but I hope you don’t regret this in the future (subbing or not other animes).
Since you’re not going to sub Refrain, are you going to at least sub the OVA?
Also, SSY BDs soon?
Omg, White Album 2 confirmed.
Awesome to know that.
Why the hell would you drop Little Busters: Refrain? It’s like the best show this season.
I have the entire first season you guys did and you were the best subbers for show FFS! I may as well not bother watching it now 🙁
P.S Cruchyroll subs suck! That’s why I’ll never bother with them.
Also you are aware that more than a few people are upset you dropped Refrain. The same people who DONT stream anime. I wouldn’t mind waiting a week or so after airing for your release ect. But no way am I watching the Crunchyroll/HorribleSubs versions :'(
Aww I was looking forward to Golden Time from you guys because I really liked it and don’t really prefer CR. But i guess it can’t be help with your schedule. 🙁
@liz
Well, I watched the first episode and personally I will not continue even if they sub it here. I had the feeling it would be boring and the story will be too forseeable. But that is just my personal taste so don’t hesitate watching it there. ^^
I know what you feel that you have a fucking busy time in academy. This fansubbing has no life worth to replace real live.
If you can’t do the TV show, at least you may do payback by translating the BD/DVD which has flexible time to do it. That’s only our last hope.
Well, with you guys have no good time to sub TV series right now, let other fansubbers have a chance to shine.
a lot of guys from vndb.org are saying that White Album 2 VN was great. I have absolutely no idea how the VN went, and if the anime adaptation will be good enough. Because, you know, most adaptations from VNs suck.
That said, just one request for UTW… spoiler-tag anything that wasn’t mentioned from the VN!
And Eustia needs a translation. I seriously doubt this, but would you guys pick up Eustia VN someday?
and I watched Golden Time ep 1 from HS. It’s decent enough for viewing. won’t really ruin your viewing enjoyment apart from maybe untranslatable kanji names and their root meaning or how their names became pronounced after revising it. Meh, I know like 20 kanji only so…
Well… I guess I’ll have to get my LB from fucktard subs. -_-
LittleSubbers is going to be doing LB Refrain, and they’re pretty much an offshoot of FFF now so that would be a good alternative.
Unfortunately, there’s only commie and horriblesubs for Golden Time.
UTW, would you consider doing Non Non Biyori? So far there are no announcements for simulcasts and nobody is planning to sub it according to http://fansubdb.com/wiki/Autumn_2013
Are you going to do the BD’s of Prisma Illya? Yes or no? Are you guys ignoring me on purpose or what? -_-
Although it’s a shame you dropped LB Refrain, I completely understand. Everyone on the UTW team has a busy life. Hell, I can’t even imagine adding 5-6 hours per week to my workload, and you guys have to commit roughly that amount of time for EACH show you sub. And in my opinion, I don’t think simulcasted subs are as bad as everyone thinks they are. If there was a show I am considering watching, and it’s only simulcasted, then I’ll watch it.
Even though simulcasting has probably prevented quality fansub groups from subbing some series, simulcasting is probably for the best. All quality fansubbers have to put an enormous amount of time to sub a show, and they are really busy. Think about it. If they enjoy anime enough to sub it, AND they had time to sub a show, they really wouldn’t care if a show was simulcasted or not. From some comments, it seems a lot of people think you guys have unlimited amounts of time. But you guys all have busy lives. Honestly, it would be a shame if you see subbing as a burden, and even more so if you were to dislike anime afterwards because of it.
Raze, your comment about fansubbing entering a “twilight era” was a little depressing, but times change. There may be a time when it is completely normal for a show to be released with English subtitles, as opposed to the current situation. Anyways, thanks to the UTW team for all you have done, and will do in the future. I enjoyed the first episode of Kyoukai no Kanata, so I will hope to follow you guys through this season! Cheers!
Why do you care that a show is being simulcasted on CR?
Lots of people don’t care about that site, lots of people that have a CR account and pirates like there’s no tomorrow, as if that would help the industry.
Rokudaime, yes, they are purposely ignoring you. But seriously, why not wait whenever they release the batch for the tv airing with the announcement if they are or not, instead of persistently asking in the comments.
That blows about LB Refrain. The crunchyroll subs are making me rage a bit. I was really hoping you guys would be subbing the second season since you did the first season so well. I can understand your reasons for not doing so, though. I just a different subgroup will be willing to pick it up and do a better job than CR.
if only eclipse or static subs were still around they probly would have done golden time guess gota force myself to watch something from horrible subs this going to suck not utw falt i understand real life comes first just sucks that a show done by say guy that did toradora no other quality fansubers other then you guys wanted to try doing it
While I understand what you mean about CR playing the shows some two hours after the Japanese airtime, however, I hope that people carry on subbing as CR has some good shows that if you are in the USA but for us folks in the UK we never get to see them. Without the subbing community I would have missed out on some great Anime.
Please keep up the great work.
Cheers
Indy
OK so good. You’re not going to do Golden Time or Little Busters Season 2. How about subbing files for the OP and ED lyrics? That little amount can be merged into rips and then be properly fully subbed. It’s a shame CR never subs the songs.
reaching shit tier level subs oh well rip fuckers
I’m really upset over UTW not subbing Refrain, considering how integral music is to the show and how UTW has traditionally subbed them quite nicely, along with the rest of the show.
Well, at least I get to choose from 1 of 4 different sub groups for Kyoukai no Kanata -_-
Thanks for the season 1 subs.
Although it’s a shame that you guys aren’t going to sub LB Refrain, but I do understand that all of you are busy. Thank you for all the hard work always.
Regarding my request yesterday, please give some seed or peers to Amagami SS XVID
all you whiny bitches can shut the fuck up about UTW dropping refrain. you bunch of fucking cock suckers
why are you guys hating on UTW for not subbing LB?
yes it a shame, but you dont have to get mad at them for it. I mean, they’re doing all this subbing for free so none of us have the right to tell them what to do.
I don’t know why ppl are bitching so much. It’s always better to only have a few shows than alot of them with huge delays or even drops. I appreciate the great work UTW does. Please keep it up.
BTW the subs from FFF aren’t that shabby so watching both shows from them.
The reason is because the second season is the one that WILL surpass Clannad: After Story… and UTW missing the chance to be the the most famous subber group is right around the corner.
@Pharm
@Bec What are you talking about. LB will not even get close to Clannad: After Story… Sorry to say that but LB is at the end of the ladder of the Key Adaptions…
Well, since Crunchyroll makes you wait a week (and not 48 hours) unless you pay 8,99€/mo (which a bit unreasonnable when you want to watch only 1 anime) and since I don’t really like both of your anime (the two I wanted to give a look just got deleted from your schedule, and you’ve decided to not sub monogatari season 2 the last season), it seems I will not see some UTW subs for a while.
See you next year, UTW, hoping CR will not get every anime you “really wanted” to work on. Keep up the good work, however
@moriandrio
I cried like a baby in After Story… but not nearly as enough as in Refrain. I dropped my fudge when I finished it.
A quick overview: http://beneaththetangles.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/little-busters-refrain-and-the-power-of-experience/
If have finished both and i still see a huge gap between both stories. I don’t really think After Story will ever be topped. But that are oppinions and not the point about what ppl discuss here.
It’s fall ppl go back to college (or they work or do both ^^) so the time for subs is way less than in summer. And afaik on of the most aktive members went on a break too. Ppl should be glad that they are doing subs and stop to complain. Golden Time is allready subbed by FFF and I’m not sure about LB but i think they planning on doing that too.
Well, can’t say I’m surprised at your plans. Definitely disappointed though. Sometimes we commoners forget that fansubbers/translators are only human as well, with their own lives or something like that, especially when it clashes with our expectations for your projects. I watched shows you subbed because it was the crew of UTW who did it, with their witty blog posts and unpredictable delays :p. Subbing/ translating is hard work, anyone who would deny that deserves bloody dismemberment. And for that you have my respect.
II was one of the people who expected M*zui to sub the second season of Oreimo and, and well, when they didn’t, I felt really sad. So, in some place, somewhere far far away, somebody is laughing about this since it was M*zui that introduced me to the awesome people of UTW,
Good luck on your future projects UTW
Please tell me this is a joke? I came here all excited today for little busters refrain only to find out you dropped it!
why only sub half a show?
Like one of the above posters said. The people who come to your site arent the people who steam from crunchyroll anyway. I cant be bothered with horriblesub or any other half arsed effort. this was the only anime i was really looking forward to this season. kind of wish i didnt waste my time watching the first half of the show now.
Your perspective is way too USA-centered. Most of the shows on CR are region-blocked and only people in a few selected countries may watch them. For me it’s not even worth being subscribed there, as nearly every show is blocked and there are no local alternatives to CR (hell, even Netflix is unavailable in my country). Have in mind that there are bilingual people all over the world. Well, CR releases are usually rather average when it comes to subs. Sure, there are alternatives like HorribleSubs but as people mentioned, there are no subs for karaoke.
Anyhow, it happened so I guess it can’t be helped. Will probably check your other shows at some point in time.
I’m trying to keep my hands off of crunchy, but I guess I’ll have to make do with them this time =/
Still, thanks for all the work you guys have done so far =)
You can only delude yourself for so long into believing that J.C. Staff is actually putting some effort into adapting Little Busters. I don’t blame UTW from wanting to distance themselves from it.
To be fair, I’m not really sure I blame J.C. Staff that much anymore either — after how good a job they did on Railgun S2, and various other projects throughout their long history that are quite excellent. They’re just more inconsistent than other studios. And considering how KyoAni’s lackluster adaptation of Clannad After Story was so well-received, it’s difficult to expect J.C. Staff to waste money on achieving anything but the bare minimum quality to move BDs.
@Invisiblemoose
“KyoAni’s lackluster adaptation of Clannad After Story”? Lol, what? Did you and I watch the same show? KyoAni’s adaptation of Clannad AS was amazing, and it was well received BECAUSE it was amazing. Did it ever occurr to you that when so many people obviously loved it, and you don’t, that maybe it’s your taste that is lacking, and not everyone else’s? :-/
It’s OK with Golden Time; FFF picked it up!
I have to disagree on “simulcasting is good”. You see, I’m french but watch animes subbed in english to improve myself, but every simulcasting site is unavailable here in France. Besides, the few animes I tried to watch on simulcasting sites weren’t of good quality : poor rips, some lines feeling wrong, and most of all… streaming only. I’m often watching anime at college (= crappy wifi connextion) or in the train (= no connection at all), and streaming prevents this.
Don’t get me wrong, I totally understand and respect your decision. But no, I can’t be glad to see simulcasting and all its restrictions and limitations progress if it implies destroying the fansub community.
Good luck on Kyoukai no Kanata, anyway ! =)
Considering your simulcast policies, I have to ask. Did you guys ever consider subbing the Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta? Going by the OVAs the new remake looks very promising… plus Cthuko is slow as fuck… please save my entitled ass based UTW.
Interesting.
Thanks for your cooperation yesterday for giving seeds and peers for Amagami SS Xvid
Will you still take the BD of Little Busters Refrain? Since I really expect your subs on this series, as you already done the first season….
I see FFF is doing Golden Time and Little Busters! Refrain. Would a joint with them be possible at this point? (love that FTW)
how about yokazura quartet?
I love yozakura but char design of ovas was plain horrible compared to first tv and second tv have same designer and studio as ovas. Probably not good idea for UTW to spend time subbing such horror
Why is FFF and UTW both doing the same thing separately after so many joints in previous seasons?
Hi thanks very much for all your hard work, look forward to your projects, I like how you sub the signs as i can understand a bit of dialogue but i can’t read signs so i like how you do that, thank you very much, I love the subs on Kyoukai no kanata and look forward to them hopefully they will be out today but if not tomorrow is fine as Quality takes time, keep up the good work to all the team and thank you for all your hard work.
Please give some seeds and peers in Amagami SS Xvid
Please sub Nagi no Asukara!
FFF + UTW = FTW
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