DOWNLOAD HD: [UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_01_[h264-720p][E2552AFF].mkv [DDL1] [DDL2]
DOWNLOAD SD: [UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_01_[XviD][03C28B75].avi [DDL1] [DDL2]
I am very happy to present to all of you our offering for the Fall 2011 season: Fate/Zero! This series tells the story of the 4th Holy Grail War, precedent to the 5th as detailed by the original game of the franchise, Fate/Stay Night. You can jump straight into this series if you haven’t encountered anything Type-Moon before, but you might be confused at some parts, and you’ll also pretty much spoil the entire Fate/Stay Night plot for yourself.
Loli Rin almost gave me a heart attack from moe overdose, and Irisviel was so lovely that I had visual orgasms every time she appeared, but I decided to go with Loli Rin for the release pic since Irisviel will surely have a lot of screentime to come.
With just the first 1-hour episode, we’ve covered both the prologue and Act 1 of the original light novels, which would amount to about a third of the first book. How they’ll stretch out the rest of the material to accommodate 25 episodes should prove interesting.
We’re using Aniplex subs, but I’ve given them quite the editing makeover, hence the tag. The delay was due to some unfortunate problems we ran into with encoding; I did take the time to do an extra QC run, though. It also turned out the MBS cap wasn’t much better than the Tokyo MX initial airing, so we’ll be using the MX caps instead as it’s faster etc.
And that’s enough blogging from me. Please enjoy!
arEdit: The HD release is 10-bit. Please make sure your codecs/codec packs are up to date. If you see falling tiles or it looks like the video is on acid, you are probably using non-recent codecs and it would be a good idea to update them.
Thank you so much! Can’t find other words to express my gratitude.
just asking will the sd be xvid or mkv
Thank you Thank you Thank you <3 <3 I love you guys ~~~~!
It was worth staying up till 6 am just for this moment!
The time has come & I shall enjoy immensely X3
Thank you for the release I appreciate it.
Thank you so much for the release. I knew you guys would be subbing this series so I waited patiently. You have just made my day đ
Worth the weight.
>501mb
Thank God for 10bit.
Thanks for the release.
Is there any reason why it’s significantly larger than Commie’s release?
YES!
Loli Rin! Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi I’m already orgasming and I just put the torrent to download
@riesza
Sure there is. It’s not starved of bitrate. You can be the judge of that anyhow, different strokes for different folks and all that jazz.
Ah here it comes… I resisted the urge to download Commie’s release only to watch your sub.
Then I shall take my time.
Release an 8-bit too. 10-bit doesn’t work on any hardware players that connect directly to TVs.
The best release is here!
Please don’t drop from 10bit when the faggots in the Nyaatorrents comments inevitably start whining.
Whether it’s 500MB or 1GB in size, 8-bit or 10, I don’t really care as long as it works. As long as the quality is nice and better than the RAW I watched earlier. Will be nice to actually understand what I’m watching too.
Valid complaints that 10-bit has with pretty much everything except the latest software on a modern PC is not whining. Not everyone can update, not everyone even uses a PC to watch the files. Backwards compatibility is important.
awesome ^^
@caketown you can easily connect your PC to your tv using a vga or dvi cable, hdmi cable if your computer has an out. don’t be retarded. and if you have a shitty tv there are vga to component cables out there. stop using ps3 media servers or whatever you’re using.
woot it begins! tyvm for the first awesome release of this epic season!
THXX ! ! ! : )
@caketown
Go buy yourself a long HDMI cable, and connect your PC to your TV. Oh shit, problem solved.
Now your sorry, whining ass will not be holding back progress for the rest of us. Folk like you would have us still be using RMVB and XviD for everything so you can watch anime on your fucking toaster or whatever.
Hardware decoders suck anyway. They seriously go against the proper standards of H.264, particularly because the companies are either too lazy or asinine to release proper firmware updates for their own products.
LOL.
I bet this comment section will go as long as comment on NT on commie’s release.
Just one quick question: Are you had any plan to do the BD for this show? I bet it’d be great sensation coming from a high quality source, and a surround sound.
Thank you.
Yes! Hurrah! F/Z! đ
i’m happy right now!
10-bit, welcome here! đ
@fdasfsdf
My PC is a power hog and in the other room without a remote control. Folk like you would have us spending thousands on media centres just so we can watch anime comfortably on our HDTVs so you can have your super awesome modern non-standard encodes.
xvid,avi please…
oh i see, 1 hour ep so 500mb. i do hope i can play the HD on my netbook. >_<
Well i wonder if there is a 10bit player for ubuntu. mplayer2 crashes with the smplayer gui and i don’t wanna play withoput gui, and the gnome player gui make your subs look shitty.
OMG FUCK YES đ Totally deserves 10bit :3
I’ve said my piece on 10-bit before so won’t repeat. But please label all 10-bit releases as such in the filename e.g. [UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_01_[h264-10bit-720p][E2552AFF].mkv.
>spending thousands on media centres just so we can watch anime comfortably on our HDTVs
Move your computer, or watch it at your computer. Oh, that was hard.
>super awesome modern non-standard encodes.
They’re standard now. Get with the times.
@caketown
Then spend the thousands (if you’re lazy to buy the proper parts). Hi10P/10-bit IS a proper H.264 standard.
Seriously, you can build an i3/Llano-based platform for less than $500 and that would only take up to 65W during playback. That’s more than enough for a 10-bit, FullHD capable system.
@caketown
If there are fansub who will release 8bit video, but with any Level above 4.1 format profile, it still breaks any compatibility with most player out there.
Blame your player.
cant figure out how to update mediaplayer classic, any suggestions?
@chibi2o9
http://xvidvideo.ru/
Thank you very much….. <3 UTW
thx Sumatori-kun
I just wanna ask before download is just installing CCCP will solve all problem on this episode? or do I need to install newest version of codec pack too?
oh thanks I don’t really mind getting spoiled.
I d/l the experimental mplayer2 for OS X, but videos are still looking pretty crappy. Any serious suggestions for a mac user who would love to try 10-bit?
@Kanra
just install the lastest CCCP
nice one! waited for it~
whoa 500 mb despite beeing 10-bit?
@Kahara
Downloading and installing CCCP solves everything. I just updated mine and had no problems with playing this.
Ahh, ignore my question. For anyone using mplayer osx extended, just stick the following file in the app package container. Thanks to kuler over at Commie.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QNBWURWR
do i change settings or anything now?
@Marina
Get the latest Mplayer OSX Extended.
http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/?p=205
@Break
It’s 48min long, and it’s not starved from bandwidth like commie’s release.
For all, who are confused about the file size – The episode is so long as two regulary episodes. If you think about it, you’ll become clear that the file even is smaller than other episodes.
Y U NO RELEASE XVID?
I guess it is recommended to play the original visual novel first, right? Cause that’s what I’m doing right now.
Tohsaka ftw!!!!
@caketown
Let’s assume your computer does not run tough video. If you’re spending thousands in a media center, you’re doing it wrong. You can spend $500 in a low-power laptop with a Win7 license and have it dedicated to media playing, including 10-bit 1080p. You can have it run updated Win7 + CCCP and you don’t need *anything* else. You can even keep it up to date by jacking it onto your LAN.
Feel dumb already for having spent $2k+?
Let’s assume your computer DOES run tough video. Move it near your HDTV, buy a 2 meter HDMI cable, problem solved.
@nINJAkECIL
I already had the latest version but thanks đ I also replied again before your comment with the binary needed in addition to the latest version of mplayer osx extended.
Uhmmm is there a big diff. between UTW and commie except for the MB
wat r the settins for mediaplayer classic to play 10bit?
@CampingHero
Howto: Build the svn MPlayer under the latest release version of Ubuntu
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542240
HOWTO: Install and use the latest FFmpeg and x264
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
There’s no need to build MPlayer. You can use the daily SVN PPA. Of course, it’s a daily build so they don’t keep stable versions around. If the code is trainwreck one day, you’ll have to come back and try again later. That said, I haven’t had any problems.
https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/mplayer-daily
Won’t work with video acceleration, of course, so no more 5% CPU video playback. It’ll blow up if you even have it turned on. Set video output to xv.
So i have to remove mplayer and all of x264 codec and then compile it myself?
FWIW, transcoded to 8-bit using Handbrake: CRF 20, ref=6:bframes=5:subq=9:mixed-refs=1:8x8dct=1:b-adapt=2:b-pyramid=1:me=umh:no-fast-pskip=1:psy-rd=0.50,0.00
[22:59:00] work: average encoding speed for job is 32.590256 fps (on an i7 860 – pretty aggressive settings)
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9950618 (23.064db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:50.906 U:54.099 V:53.969 Avg:51.574 Global:50.763 kb/s:813.09
Final size: 359MB
May or may not play on media players like WDTV (don’t have one to test) – I’ve encoded this to play with XBMC (Live i.e. Linux). x264 guesses that this is High 4.0 so it should work with any standalone media player.
I’d upload it, but I suffer Australian internet – crappy upload speeds and small quotas …
A guide to 10Bit for the less tech savvy of you:
1. Download both SMPlayer and mplayer2 (not 1, 2).
2. Install SMPlayer like you normally would. Take note that this is just so mplayer2 has an interface.
3. Put mplayer2 wherever you desire.
4. Open SMPlayer and go to preferences.
5. You should notice an option in general named ‘mplayer Executable’.
6. Change the location of the executable (exe) to the mplayer2 exe.
Congratulations! You can now play 10bit using SMPlayer.
Trust me on this one. I unknowingly downloaded Coalgirls’ 10bit version of Yuru Yuri and had to learn how to play it.
@Fsfrk true, but its h10p, meaning that its still preeetty big now..
@Dimorphic its always recommended playng fate/stay night, thpugh for properly understanding this, i think its enough to have read the fate route, so i guess its enough to watch the old anime or read the manga as well. though of course not gonna stop you from reading this, as its awesome!
@StubbsiBoy:
downlaod an executable of mplayer is not working i just can’t find it. i installed mplaywer2 from ppa and it didn’t work and with 8bit files it has alo crashed
VLC is easy to DL try that ( I mean the night thiny VLC)
It works perfectly fine with me
@ricz
There is a visibly better quality on UTW’s release compared to Commie, and better subs imo. I think its totally worth it the extra MB’s.
You can compare the pic i took few mins ago here.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/84504
@CampingHero
“So i have to remove mplayer and all of x264 codec…”
Yes, is recommended to remove it, you can do in Terminal:
sudo apt-get remove mplayer x264 libx264-dev
“…and then compile it myself?”
Not necessary, Ubuntu User’s option is the most easiest way
@Toxie thanks …. that’s what I really want to know
Well i have made all the way to from the tutorials and it crashes
is there any reason why i cant watch this? i got so damn excited but when i run it threw VLC its just a green picture with audio.
nvm. got a win threw DivX.
these 10bit releases are pretty awesome. doesnt put much strain on my 3 year old laptop. good job with the release utw!
HOLY SHIT people READ THE OPENING POST
You need to set up Hi10P/10-bit properly if you’re getting screen anomalies.
For VLC users, use the latest VLC nightly.
For mplayer users, use the latest mplayer2 nightly.
For MPC-HC users, get the latest MPC-HC nightly and any of the three following:
1.) latest madVR
2.) ffdshow nightly
3.) CoreAVC 3.x
Woa, the episode was quite good.
BTW what is this I don’t even http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=8694
@EcchiSkecchi
they announce it that To aru Index will be having a movie
@StubbsiBoy ty ty ty been trying to find a way to get smplayer to play 10bit encodes for ages and google just seems to have been useless for this đ
Here’s a link to windows mplayer2 builds for those having some trouble finding it http://mplayer2.srsfckn.biz/
You also may need 7zip to properly extract the exe (my old version of winrar was failing at it) http://www.7-zip.org/ . I just put it in the same dir as the mplayer.exe was.
Loled hard what I read this post đ
@ricz
I know what it says. ‘What is this I don’t even’ mean surprise as I haven’t heard of it.
At 2:49, there is the most amazing screen of square boxes…
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/unledwmt.png
I have the latest mpc-hc (from cccp) and Coreavc 3.0.0, does anyone know if this is a configuration problem or an issue with the file itself?
Hmm. I should probably watch this for the interesting Fate/exposition, but I’m concerned that it’s going to be full of fanservice. Maybe I should just read the VN again like a faggot.
>wake up in the morning
>see loli Rin
Nutbladder Status: Destroyed
How to play 10bit
1 – Uninstall all codacs and players you have (registry cleaning after would be a good idea, use ccCleaner but not necessary)
2 – restart your computer
3 – download and install cccp – http://www.cccp-project.net/
4 – Done.
Can anybody tell me how to play 10p video on mac?
If I should use mplayer2, can you tell me how to set it up? I mean, from the website, all i got is just the 5mb application, which I have to drag the video to the mplayer2 icon to play it, also the playback is laggy compared to VLC and MplayerOSX (playing 8bit).
Thanks
@JoetheArachnid
Fanservice? It’s a good thing. No signs till now. But the great story is still there and fanservice is a prize. And btw, the vn have a lot of fanservice. But hey, watch the first episode and be mesmerized!
Aawweesome!! Thanks a lot here guys. I like how you fixed the mages>magi thing. But the “Mages Association” was left alone. I’m not sure but wouldn’t it be “Magi Association” then? I don’t remember exactly, so yeah.
Thanks again.
would it be possible to get the subs (srt, ass or whatever format) for the ones who cannot use 10bit?
Sadly, media players have features like this in a graphics chip, no SW player that can be ‘updated’ or more codecs to be added
thnx
@ DragoZERO
That would be “Mage’s Association” (as in ‘s possessive).
I know you plan to use 10bit for future releases, but is it possible to name your files so we can tell at a glance? For example [h264-10b-720p]. It will also help differentiate from your earlier releases.
just got one question. how do i get wmp to show the subtitles. worked fine until i dl and installed latest verion of cccp now there is no subs showing up. help pls. thx
@woodearth:
I think [Hi10P-720p] would be better.
@Break
You can’t be serious. The video track has a bitrate of like 1250 kbps. I’ve seen legion of SD encodes with higher bitrates. I almost fell off my chair when I looked at the filesize, already aware that the episode was twice as long.
Of course, seeing how many static scenes we have makes one somewhat aware of the reason for the small size, and the backgrounds seem to be blurred (what the fuck, ufotable? you go and make detailed backgrounds to then blur them? is that your disk-selling tactic now?), and I did spot what looked to me like combing and banding, but still, for its bitrate and the amount of detail in the show, the encode is nothing short of gorgeous.
@comicozi
You’re doing it wrong. http://www.cccp-project.net is how you do it right.
@comicozi
>Brings up the Haali media splitter settings (Start-all programs-CCCP-filters-Haali media splitter settings).
>Click “Option” tab.
>Click on “+” on “Compatibility”
>Click on Autoload VSFilter
>Change the Value to “Yes”
>enjoy your WMP with subs. Although I recommend MPC-HC. You could add shader features in MPC-HC, like complex sharpen, etc.
@al: You need CoreAVC 3.0.1 to run 10bit depth files.
Fuck you niggers I can play 10bit (Kaiji, Redline…) but this is giving me artefact shit
Guys, i really appreciate your passion to use only last beta-unstable-no_screenshots-no_vob_sub versions of codecs, but regular 8-bit release for regular people would be nice.
Those with SMPlayer issues on Windows – and Linux – could always use UMPlayer (http://www.umplayer.com/) as their GUI. Especially since SMPlayer development stalled, like, two years ago and UMPlayer is the proper fork/continuation that picks up where it left off. UMPlayer also works fine with mplayer2, and is just an all-around better integrated and nicer-looking option, IMO (and I did use SMPlayer for years when I wanted a GUI; UMPlayer is far beyond being just a more up-to-date replacement, too, it’s very much the rightful successor). The only caveat is that you might have to mess around with the video and audio drivers being used or else it might crash on bad hardware, like VIA. No problems here with Nvidia and -vo gl2, though.
Ubuntu users can get UMPlayer through a PPA (https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/umplayer), and mplayer2 from another PPA (https://launchpad.net/~ripps818/+archive/coreavc), the latter of which I have not tested because I always build mplayer2 myself. The general methodology for installing them would be:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/umplayer
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ripps818/coreavc
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install umplayer
sudo apt-get install mplayer2-build
I separated the install steps because I’m not sure which one gets installed first, and it might cause the wrong mplayer version to get used instead. UMPlayer should automatically see the mplayer2 executable and use it, since it installs as ‘mplayer’ (although you will have to answer a couple of dialogs concerning what version of mplayer it is and your language setting; it’s fine to tell it that you’re using 1.0rc4 even though you aren’t).
@nin… thanks alot worked great.
@blargh… if you read my post i said cccp obviosly thats were i dl from.
@comicoze
ur welcome.
@mithos
There’s UTW’s XVID for you.
Knock off the 10bit shit already. We shouldn’t have to jump through a thousand hoops just to get what’s otherwise only on par with 8bit in a timely fashion.
about time people upgrade their junkboxes! HATERS BE HATIN!~
aaawwwwww
At least release the script so I don’t have to download the whole thing just to extract the .ass.
Fuck your elitism 10bit shit, the differences are too small. I’m not going to watch this shit on my computer just because you faggots don’t think of people that use media boxes on their TV.
Are people really having this much trouble? I was already playing 10bit fine before I even knew it existed. And it runs smoother than 8bit. All it takes is updating codecs on a semi-regular basis (no fancy tricks or settings…), which is something you really should be doing anyway, for all sorts of reasons.
Also, my codecs are pretty dang stable (haven’t seen a bug nor crash anywhere), and I have no problem taking screenshots on MPC-HC, so…
P.S. There are still people who think they need VobSub? Seriously? That thing is, always has been, and always will be a pointless piece of crap. It’s commonly used by everyone who knows nothing about video and just uses whatever random shit someone spoon feeds them without questioning it.
Also, media boxes are a waste of money. There were better options out there before they were even invented.
@Raze @DragoZERO
While the popular English translation for éèĄćäŒ seems to be Mage’s Association, you can argue this one any number of ways given the original Japanese is a simple compound noun. The fact that it doesn’t even say éèĄćž« (“magus”) but instead éèĄ (“magic,” as in the lesser magic or non-True Magic within the Type-Moon universe) means one could argue just as strongly for “Magic Association” or “Association of Magi” as they could the possessive form you’re arguing for. Hell, “Magic Association” would probably have the strongest legs to stand on given it’s the literal translation of an otherwise very simple compound noun.
In the end, meh, not a big deal. It’s not like ćźć · suddenly became “Treasure Tools” or è±é suddenly became “English Spirits,” so it’s all good. đ It’s also completely understandable that UTW would want to settle on the translation most commonly found in the English-speaking fandom.
If you -are- going to write it as Mage’s Association, though, on the basis that this is what the official Type-Moon English name for it is and/or on the basis that this is the term which the majority of English speaking fans use, then as much as I prefer the single-L spelling, I suppose that means you’re going to have to correct Ilyasviel at around 2m20s to Illyasviel. :p ^^;
Still going through it, but so far this is a solid translation with a lot of the smaller errors made by Commie (or Aniplex?) caught and corrected. Sometimes the erroneously-translated version sounds better than the real thing but I’m 100% for authenticity so go go UTW! đ
You guys are awesome! Thanks!!!
> 10bit kills anime
> Daiz wants to kill anime
> Daiz wants 10bit
It all makes perfect sense.
I think the world is not yet ready for 10bit. There have to be some players for it at all that are don’t nightly so all of us can play it. i trried several ways but nothin worked with my smplayer asd the gnome mplayer is just crappy for this
Thanks UTW anyway for releasing XviD for the other less fortunate users here.
What kind of codec pack should i use for Mac OS? I don’t know shit ’bout it… *sigh* fuck u apple.
Updated the K-Lite codecs, MPC-HC and such as you said. Video is still completely choppy.
Now what?
Wait WTF is everyone bitching about!? Just update your CCCP and watch! I have no idea what’s a media box and I’m watching this on my laptop and it plays just fine
10 bit
Download the latest combined community codec pack and it will play the file just fine.
If you have an older version of CCCP, uninstall that first before installing. If you have a different codec pack and unsure if it supports 10bit or not, I would just uninstall it and download cccp unless you really need/like it.
As for the player issue, pretty sure it’s just people’s outdated codec. I mean I can run the file on Windows Media Player of all things, though you have to change a setting in haali media splitter for WMP to play 10 bit haha.
someone can extract the subs and merge with a 8bit raw and upload it please? These codec packs always messed up my pc because i’ve already installed needed codecs. Thanks a lot.
To those complaining and whining, I advise you to try this guide [http://imouto.my/configuring-potplayer-for-gpu-accelerated-video-playback-with-dxva-or-cuda-and-also-high-performance-software-decoding/] this is the best player i know so far, it makes the HD video much more HD, what i meant is more sharper and clearer. anyways if you’ll follow that guide, that’s still for 8-bit. But there’s a note for 10-bit there just Ctrl + F after installing and doing all the settings for 8-bit, and just do some minor tweaking to allow playing for 10-bit.
Anyways that player or rather i say the guide is pretty CPU intensive. Moreover for the settings bout the videocard, if your videocard is not in the list just choose the settings for PureVideo2. (you’ll know what i say after you try it)
Thanks for the avi. While my computer can play 10bit, I prefer to use my hardware player which can only cope with the 8bit. I really appreciate your making the avi for folks like me.
Anyways try that guide, that’s much more better than VLC,KMP,MPC and etc… though that guide is pretty time consuming. hehe but i encourage you to try it..
@Caketown who said
“My PC is a power hog and in the other room without a remote control. Folk like you would have us spending thousands on media centres just so we can watch anime comfortably on our HDTVs so you can have your super awesome modern non-standard encodes.”
oh hey, a media center thats not thousands of dollars imagine that.
http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-MAG-Intel-NVIDIA-HD-ND01-U/dp/B0030UH2J4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572220&sr=8-2
aww look this ones even got a bluray drive,
http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-Intel-Blu-ray-Mini-PC-ZBOXHD-ID34BR/dp/B0044DE7XK/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572362&sr=8-8
oh wait are those more i see, aww man there shure are alot of these non existant media centers that can play hd anime on a tv for you know… not thousands of dollars.
http://www.amazon.com/Shuttle-dual-core-Next-Generation-Graphics-XS35GT/dp/B0042DT89U/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572362&sr=8-11
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaCentre-40812HU-Desktop-Computer/dp/B004RJK2YY/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572362&sr=8-12
http://www.amazon.com/Foxconn-NT330I-W-AE-QB-Dual-Core-Barebone/dp/B005HN1I2O/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e5
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-System-40812Gu-Windows7-Premium/dp/B0058QB37A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572362&sr=8-4
http://www.amazon.com/Asrock-Intel-Wireless-Barebone-330-HT/dp/B002ZG7SBQ/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572362&sr=8-16
http://www.amazon.com/Xtreamer-Mini-ITX-Dual-Core-Wireless-Configured/dp/B004ZK8BP2/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1317572815&sr=8-18
And if you would rather build one your self,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131635
Wow i wanted to watch Fate/Zero but i was not really that excited for it, but after the first episode i am excited for it now and looking forward to the rest. The first episode was great and it already looks like it going to be better than Fate/Stay Night. I liked Fate/Stay Night but the ending left a bad taste in my mouth but it was still mostly good. Fate/Zero just looks all round better and i think i prefer a more adult cast of characters.
rofl, Hi10.
You can’t compress a bit to less than a bit. That’s fucking retarded. You can’t have 0.5 of a byte. What the fuck is this shit?
These people claim to be giving a “higher” quality for less size. Say we have a 320MB 10 bit release and a 500MB 8 bit release.
There’s a 180MB difference between them; and 0.64% of the 10 bit release is composed of half bits.
Half bits DON’T EXIST! That’s 0.65 of the anime that DOESN’T EXIST!
Now only does it not exist, all those half bits have to be removed from the video while it’s playing.
Where do you think they go? On your hard drive, that’s where. And because they can’t exist, they can’t be moved or overwritten.
Noticed your HDD space decreasing recently?
@Mr. Angry
>Oh wow, I found this random post on 4chan! It must be true!
I was waiting for your release specifically.
I’ve followed your work since you started subbing and definitely ranks in my top charts.
Thank you all very much for taking the time to sub this, and I look forward to your continued high-quality projects.
>2011
>still not using MadVR regardless of 8bit or 10bit releases
I seriously hope you guys aren’t doing this.
Just finished watching your guys’ version. Overall, I found it very satisfying. Will probably stick with you guys barring any major hiccups in releasing future episodes. Two translation gripes which stood out to me were:
(1) when Waver says 銏éčżă«ăăăăŁăŠïŒ, you translated it as “How dare he!?” This works contextually, but why did you opt out of the literal (and contextually still perfectly understandable in English) “Making a fool of me!”?
(2) when Kirei says of Tokiomi’s “fax machine” (lol) that it is “unseemly” to him “to this day,” that particular word choice read so awkwardly. Why not “No matter how many times I see it”? Especially since that’s pretty much what he said in Japanese (äœćșŠèŠăŠă)?
These are small gripes, though, especially since this show is beyond my ability to fully comprehend without the training wheels that are fansubs. So thanks very much for picking this up and providing us with a visually-stunning file with high-quality subtitling. I appreciate it and will probably be selecting you guys for my Fate/Zero needs as well as recommending your version to my friends and colleagues.
Wow… Just wow…
1 hour of downloading VLC, mplayer2, re-updating codecs, getting CCCP, etc; nothing.
3 minutes to get and setup CoreAVC3; everything. The hell? Whatever, I’m just happy it worked.
Also: “Loli Rin almost gave me a heart attack from moe overdose, and Irisviel was so lovely that I had visual orgasms every time she appeared” which were promptly lost the moment Sakura made her appearance. Just be glad this doesn’t capture her teenage years. Ugh.
The easiest way to watch it is probably to use a nightly build of VLC media player (the 1.2 development version). On Windows, download a packed file from http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win32/last/ and unpack it, go to the folder and start the player. No need to install anything (codecs are included).
However, I’ve noticed that it is computationally more demanding. If you have a weak computer, you may be unlucky.
It’s a shame there is no 8bit version. Guess I have to use another group for this. If I were to use 10bit I might as well get faster subs.
If it doesn’t work on my latest CCCP then it’s not for me. (it’s working fine but I can still see faults here and there, which is completely pointless if you got a 500mb file just to watch a faulty video)
Going for Avi then, hopefully that one is okay, but judging by the size, ugh.
Just update your fucking CCCP and done. If not, grab the .avi.
To update without hiccups, remove every single codec (that’s what I read in a guide) then reinstall CCCP. Or be like me and use MadVR
My god, I spent all day to make this 10bit work properly.
Well, it plays, but how? I have MPC-HC + Haali + MadVr, so
1) Impossible to take screenshots, not to talk about fast shots.
You should use goddamn unrelated tools to take a shot, like “pause, then quit fullscreen, then shot, then go back”
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2) Vobsub doesn’t work with madvr, so u can not take screenshot with subtitles on it.
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3) Worst of all, subtitles dissapear right after video gets paused.
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It anybody can tell me, how to solve theese troubles, i will be greatful.
If not, can anybody answer, why use 10-bit instead of 8-bit and withstand this shit?
@Kirill: I can’t speak for your screenshots since I don’t take them but for your disappearing subs, I just press play then immediately pause again. The subs should appear again when it’s paused.
2RiceKing
No, it didn’t work, i tried.
But somehow at some moment i managed to make them not dissapear, but after enterinf fullscreen mode, problem started again and i can not do anything now
@Kirill are you on W7, linux or MAC os
>EcchiSkecchi
Yes, Win7.
So?
(I’m trying to see you problem here)
You’re ok with mpc or ure trying to play it in vlc or other player
I’m ok with mpc, always used it
LAV+madVR, use it.
@Kirill just use daum pot player, and follow this guide. http://imouto.my/configuring-potplayer-for-gpu-accelerated-video-playback-with-dxva-or-cuda-and-also-high-performance-software-decoding/ uninstall first all the codecs, then dl the codecs stated there, as for the haali media splitter just use the latest version of k-lite mega codec pack. as for core avc video decoder pro version here (http://www.fileserve.com/file/e8Bjt3U/CoreAVC.H264.VC.Pro.v2.5.5.Full.rar). just follow all the settiings there.. then after finishing just minor tweaking to play 10-bit (it’s noted also in there), like blocking the ffdshow video filter and enabling the lav video decoder in the custom filter management should do the trick (you’ll know what i’m saying after you try it).
Unintal cccp
uninstal vobsub
http://utw.me/2011/09/29/fall-2011-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-25375
if this doesn’t work throw away you computer or format it. This is how should be a standard installation using k-lite.
I can perfectly play 10bit encode, take screenshots, see the subtitles, etc. Just unselect the box that says to use static subtitles if you have a core 2 duo or highter, you won’t need that.
What good will be of it?
EcchiSkecchi
thanks i will try
Thanks alot! going to watch in later this night. After DOKI dropped it someone did send me to you!! đ
@Kirill
Is this what u mean?
http://imgur.com/4X2nq
I took the screenshot with KMplayer (MPC-HC won’t take subs with screenshot), using ffdshow external codec as primary codecs in KMplayer, and use Haali’s video renderer.(I didn’t use KMplayer’s internal codec).
Didn’t my comment pass?
EcchiSkecchi, thank you a lot, now it work perfectly, although i didn’t find b) and c) boxes you mentioned
For anyone having trouble with 10-bit, I implore you to check this guide out:
haruhichan.com/wpblog/?p=205
Having MadVR installed not only solved all my 10-bit problems, but removed all lag that I was having with some 1080p videos.
Here’s how I fixed my 10-bit issues:
1) http://codecpack.co/download/PotPlayer.html
2) Download the 32-bit version of PotPlayer (near bottom of page) – DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE 64-BIT VERSION
3) Download the update from same page
4) Install PotPlayer
5) Install Update
6) 10-bit goodness awaits you
Best of all, NO CCCP REQUIRED!!!
Lol, don’t know why everybody is bitching about 10-bit. Just install CCCP and use MPC.
Best anime of the year. Hands down.
Thanks you guys!
@kirill
You’re welcome.
As for the boxes proly they just got unnoticed as you have to scroll down at some pint, but proly it won’t be a source of trouble, since c) should already be de-selected (I put there just in case).
Regarding b,I don’t know what is the current default, if you ever experience subs looking horrible big or out of the place (specially if they are loaded externally, e.g.: ass with the same name of file) you are using the internal subtitle of mpc and you should disable and use vobsub. If they look great, then ok.
why is this 150+ mb bigger than commie?
@anon
coz it’s use higher bitrate than commie’s (940kbps vs. 1472kbps).
My processor doesn’t support CCCP and MPC, and my Blu-Ray player doesn’t play 10-bit at all. 10-bit is killing anime.
And what processor are you talking about?
Even an ancient LGA775 P4 3.0ghz should be enough to play up to 720p 10bit without lagging.
Unless you talked about a dinosaur P3 and P4 s478 that is.
Fuck you very much.
I’d like to at least download the script, but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen any time soon.
Thanks for this release, and particularly for moving on to 10bit despite all the whiners who can’t be bothered to make a minor update. As part of the vast majority with no issue playing back such files, I’ve really enjoyed this new bit of progress. Good job, UTW.
http://www.cccp-project.net/ download the codec from this site it will help with the 10 bit for the players i use Media Player Classic to watch my anime so im not sure it will work for the other play hope it will help u guys
i was waiting for this for almost 2 months, and finally its out!!, thanks for subbing it^^
Lol, you guys should have used a loli Sakura picture, just for shock purposes. Heh xD
Don’t give in to the whiny babies regarding 8 bit. 10 bit is superior, so only use that.
LOLI RIN <3
@DaftMink
thanks a lot! didn’t think the .0.1 would make a difference, so I didn’t bother to upgrade (as other files didn’t have this issue).
Great, now I have to add an 8bit NOT tag to my RSS filter. Might as well do it to all the RSS’s this season. I hope you guys realize these retards that don’t want to update their codecs are causing both you, UTW, and us people who actually have a brain problems. But I guess it’s not your job to only serve people with brains, though I didn’t know it was your job to cause us problems at the brainless’ whim either.
Makes me laugh that you caved and did an 8-bit.
Or did you?
…seriously guys, is it that hard to update your damn codecs?
Anyway, I don’t really see the point in doing Hi10p encodes for TV releases.
I’m going to replace them with the BluRay releases anyway…it’s not like I want archival quality on those TV releases.
Because of this 10 bits madness, all commentaries are HURR DURR MY MEDIABLOX CANT PLAY THIS!!!!!!1111
When they should be “Rin <3<3<3"
Whatever, thanks a lot UTW for doing this, can't wait until the next episode!
@Webeiss
I strongly suspect that that 8-bit release isn’t from UTW. On Tokyo Tosho, UTW signs all their submissions with ‘Unlimited Translation Works’ in the Submitter field. That release was from an Anonymous submitter. Its probably just some random muxer catering to the douchebags who can’t be arsed to update their CCCP install and also don’t want to download the XviD version for some retarded reason.
I like 10bit. Thank you.
Now… about the show: SAKURA-CHAN, NOOOOOOO! FUCK YOU ZOKEN!!! FUCK YOU TO HELL!!!
Why is the 10bit version bigger than 8bit?
Because it’s not an official UBW release.
On Mac OS X, MPlayerX plays back 10-bit files fine. One can find it on App Store.
Supposedly MPlayer OSX Extended also works on 10-bit files, but I have run into problems during playback with it in the past.
From the filesize it looks like 7se7en transcoded using similar settings to what I provided.
Frankly I was quite surprised at the file size when I transcoded it – SSIM, PSNR and side-by-side comparison of a few sections indicated that the 10-bit and transcoded 8-bit were pretty much visually identical.
BTW … us “douchebags” as a whole *do not watch anime (or other media) on our Windows computers*. I have a dedicated anime-watching room, with an XBMC-Live HTPC, good-sized TV, very comfortable lounge with side-table for popcorn, drink, etc …
I have zero problem playing back 10-bit on my “work” computer – an i7 860. Latest ffdshow-tryouts nightly, latest MPC-HC, latest Haali, latest madVR (though I don’t need to use it since ffdshow-tryouts does the job). But I don’t use it to watch TV!
Fuck 10 bit you guys do it normally. 10 bit is shit! Fuck the new codecs! They are shit too!
One more thing, shame on you guys to use shit and something amazing like this. Translations are nice though.
10 bit is shit therefore it is shit in general.
i thought 10bit promised smaller file sizes…O_O
@guibin: depends on how it was encoded. If you don’t improve the quality in comparison to the 8-bit release you’ll indeed save plenty, but that’d be pretty pointless.
@Blargh sorry its just that in the past days since it came up, ive been astounded by small filesizes with great quality by taht one groups thats going around re-encoding all the latest anime and anime BD releases into 10-bit and they have like, madoka BD’s in 10-bit with a size of arounsd 150-200 mb and i was astounded xDD so i thought uhm you know~ oh btw they also re-encoded UTW’s kamisama no memochou release in 10-bit. just a third of the filesize the 8-bit releases have, yay~ i already loe 10-bit for this.
@Anon what are you talkign about. 10-bit small difference? you get 720 p or 1080p quality with a filesize your normally only used to for realy old or 480/360p anime! if tahts not totally worth it, then what is?
@Aelie – You need Pigoz’ MPlayer2 binary update for MplayerOSX Extended for it to work.
@guibin – no it promised quality, this is a huge ass episode, lots of movement = larger file, other groups are using a lower bit rate.
windows media player does in fact look like its on acid. luckily,i also have media player classic and it works just fine with 10bit.
I have shit with my CCCP. I got the most recent version and it’s bad still.
You guys complaining are so helpless. The size is bigger than usual because it has two episodes on it (40 min). And even if it wasn’t, you have to deal with it.
Besides, really nice encoding _ar, or whoever that it did.
Thanks so much for the episode! CAN’T WAIT! HAVE A GOOD NIGHT!
Downloaded Latest CCCP and tested with VLC and windows Media player, neither work. One gives just a green screen and one does nothing. Was able to get it play on MP classic.
Seeing people piss and moan about progress and change while expecting you guys to stay in the past with them is kind of adorable.
This one get blocky and its kinda unplayable
that other new show runs fine however
wtf is this shit?
[UTW] U guys are my #1 choice for any TYPE MOON related animes. Thank You. Thank You. Thank you. Thank you…… You guys put a big smile on my face. The Fate series will always be my favorite Type Moon series alongside Kara no Kyokai.
I know this isn’t really the place to post it (this comment will probably be deleted if there are “comment rules” laid out), but does anyone here know how to turn on hardware accelerator with CCCP while playing Hi10P media? When using the latest CCCP with default settings, all Hi10P stuff runs fine, but I notice that my CPU is doing all the work, ie. the FFDShow Video Encoder (red icon) shows up on corner of my taskbar. When I play other non-Hi10P media, the red icon doesn’t show up, indicating my GPU is doing the video encoding, while the audio is left to the CPU.
@jay
I think that’s because 10bit stuff is software only. At least with my CoreAVC 3.0.1, it is also software only and they mention on their website “Both DXVA and CUDA do not support 10-bit.” Does not really matter much for me at least, though – I still get only around 5% CPU load.
Anyway, thanks for this release. Looks like an awesome series đ And while I can understand the complaints of those who use some streaming device (BD player, etc.) and are having problems now, I’d guess that 90% of the people complaing here could watch the 10bit version just fine if they just got off their arse and did a clean reinstall with fresh codecs. But that’s simply how many people are, “I can’t be arsed to update my computer, so if something new comes out and fails on my PC, it is YOUR fault!”. Eventually they would have had this problem anyway when other groups make the switch, it’s just that UTW are among the first to do it.
And to be honest, I can’t really understand how people can stand watching fansubbed stuff via a BD player/streaming box. Whenever I tried it on my LG BD player or via the internal player software of my TV, I could watch the video, but the subs were just fail (not shown correctly/not shown at all). The only really good way of watching anime on a TV is by just plugging your PC/a notebook in via a HDMI cable.
One last time: Video Acceleration does not support Hi10P. That’s why you’ll run into problems if you keep DXVA on while running Hi10P files. There’s nothing anyone can do here since this is entirely the blame of the hardware makers dragging their asses and not supporting formats that have been developed for six whole years. I dare say six years should have been enough for them to catch on but alas it seems unless encoders don’t mass migrate to new technology companies just don’t give a shit.
Thank you UTW. You guys are the best motherfuckers out there. Love you all no homo.
Thank you very much for all the effort you guys put into this work. Although you have suffer through the whining of many people who don’t even bother to look for new software, you all continue to strive for the best available. LOL. Although, there are few programs that can handle this much EPICNESS in the first place. đ
@Kurotetsu not all of us have computers fast enough to run 10bit. I use an older media server to stream stuff to the living room. Fortunately 7seven made a really nice 8-bit conversion of the file. Worked like a charm.
Trying to exclude people by using 10-bit only made today about the format instead of the anime. You screwed up what should have been a day of celebration for fans of the series and full of discussions about the series, not the format.
Your premium membership in the Saber Fanclub is hereby revoked.
loli Rin <3 <3 <3
Thank you for this release, definitely my most anticipated show of the year. ^^
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@jbm and Leon-Gun
Alright, thanks for the response, since I couldn’t find much on that particular problem, although I’m sure that answer was out there, I just couldn’t find it. >_< When playing the file, it only uses up 3% – 5% CPU Usage, so I shouldn't really be complaining…. Guess I can get to watching this now, and see what all this loli Rin hype is all about, hehe.
Why does the my video play upside down?
>10bit
laughinggirls.js
i’ll watch it on stream
fan-fucking-tastic
OMG SO HAPPY!!!!!!!
yeah i also got problem when play it via VLC (maybe gotta wait for VLC 1.2.0 to come) but after updating my CCCP and play it with media player classic it works flawlessly!
@TheWatcher not like its their fault that people are stupid..
I’d like to thank Nyool for linking to cccp since I didn’t realize I was using an older version. Upon updating it runs fine. For the record, this show is the business.
I do feel its pretty bad for UTW to be trolling Nyaa for rencodes and flagging them its UTW script ripped from a 10bit. They should be proud of that. what does it matter if someone rencodes it using the same raw as they did only its 8bit not 10bit…
Will you guys at least guarantee that you’ll continue to encode in XviD until 10-bit is supported by most portable devices? Right now 10bit to 8bit encoding results in severe degrading of video quality. Please don’t leave us fans on portable devices behind…
f’n spectacular job on the subs and the encode, you are the standard that every other group should follow. many thanks!
First thanks for the awesome release. Next, I was wondering if there is a way to fix the lag on fullscreen using MPC-HC + madVR seeing how it runs smoothly regularly?
Amazing job on this episode, I’m blown away that there’s so many people complaining about 10bit. It’s 2011, you know?
Nevermind XviD is still worse than 10bit to 8bit.
You know, these comments make me sad. It’s those whiners who can’t get their stuff to work who halt progress to a standstill.
Anyway, awesome quality and an awesome episode. Let’s hope they didn’t set the bar too high for the rest of the series.
here is the deal, it’s not that hard to get Hi10 to work using the latest cccp-mpc. It’s really not. Here is a guide I hope will help all of you who are having problems…
http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/?p=205
I don’t follow it exactly in that I don’t use the LAV filters and don’t see the need to deselect all the internal filters, just the ones the DXVA related ones but if you are confused then just follow it exactly. If you still have issues after following that then you have a hardware problem, plain and freaking simple. Either that or you have a conflict being drawn on YOUR END.
Keep the pace priority status on this one UTW. Excellent work and the only choice for subs for this show imho. On a side note, this is why ufotable is king, the animation is as good as it gets and this is tv broadcast.
@somebody, I’m sorry to say, but fansubbers never supported watching anime on plastic toys (or portable devices as a less derogatory term). It just so happens that 8bit h264 stuck around long enough with the rise of the tablet and smartphones, fansubbers always say that only and ONLY CCCP (or K-lite like Doki) with MPC is guaranteed to work with their releases, nothing else.
All I can say is… Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You ^^
For a great job.
I’m not sure if this is the right place to put it, but is anyone elses audio spazzing out? I have a fairly new computer and the new CCCP codecs, so I’m not sure what the problem is?
@aaron no the audio is fine. Not ragging on you man but I’m just saying, if there was a verified audio problem (or any problem) then it would of been spammed to no end in the comments and a note would of been made by now on the master post. What you have is an isolated incident. I’ll go another step for future readers that the video is fine too as well as the timing of the subs. The “new” computer comment is pretty irrelevant since I don’t have a “new” computer and I can play this seamless.
@NakkiNyan: I installed that binary update, and I now have MPlayer OSX Extended handling 10-bit files just fine. I will probably go back to using MPlayer OSX Extended.
I would say handling 10-bit files on Mac shouldn’t be an issue.
With so much spoiled in just Fate/Zero’s prologue, Type-Moon better animate the Heaven’s Feel route.
I’m really happy that you decided to do this show,
as for the show… it’s too freaking epic for just the first ep đ
love the OP =)
If you look at http://utw.me/2011/09/29/fall-2011-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-25382 youâll see that ar said «If it affects enough people I might consider doing a slightly later 8-bit release, but it definitely wonât be at release time due to encode time».
What I am going to do is to sit and wait patiently for that later 8-bit release.
Hey, on animenewsnetwork it says that there is 12 eps scheduled for fate/zero, not 25, can someone confirm the right number. Obviously i trust UTW more
Yippieee…
Saber-chan!!!
@Mithgol the Webmaster: Good hint. I think an 8bit release makes a lot of sense, especially for the stand-alone player fraction. True, they could switch to XviD, but switching from HD to SD would be a huge step backwards for them. I think there is overall not much gain from 10bit at this time and that it should be reserved for 1080p enthusiast encodes. 720p should be kept compatible with consumer devices and bearable for slower machines, as even if people had to switch back to it from 10bit 1080p, that would not be as bad as from HD to SD.
Good arguments against 10 bit are given in comments #90 and #92 here: http://www.nyaa.si/?page=torrentinfo&tid=249758#c81496
As it stands, until recently, people made a non-issue of file size. Now, 10bit shrinks file size but introduces compatibility issues or makes slow machines choke, while quality-wise not really anything is gained.
Which of your translators is providing the TLC here? The answer makes a big difference to me.
@Zing good points all. 8bit stayed around long enough to become a standard on standalone devices that use hardware encoding, and as you said, the step back from 10bit 1080p to 8bit 720p is not as big as the step from HD to SD.
@type luna: It’s still 25 eps.
@Ibblemit: Should be Raze, I guess, with him being a Type-Moon fanboy, I think?
You guys have made my 2011. I totally forgot about this series being aired and my first google for fan subs has this post! đ đ đ đ Many thanks
Awesome!!
It was made of awesome and your encode is great. Ufotable should have made Unlimited Blade Works instead of Deen… Oh Well, there’s still Heaven’s Feel. (Crossing fingers)
10 bit is great and my MPlayer powered SMPlayer on Linux plays it great and I did not have to set up anything. OpenSUSE 11.4 if anyone is curios about which distro I use.
Thanks UTW!!!
@Abi Normal: good flippin call. glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that đ
@type-luna: even mal has this listed as 25 so odds heavily favor that number. i would shit if it were only 12 đ
Fianlly you consider 8bit. Thanks a lot. The gain is so useless and has so many cons that is not worth download a 10bit version, at least not now. Maybe later. đ
And btw, people complain because 10bit is not supported NATIVELY yet, we have to download cccp or coreavc 3.01 to play it.
If MpC-HQ will support 10bit natively with internal filter i’m sure that complainers stop to complain. But seems that MPC developers are reluctant to update the internal filter, i don’t know why. Maybe they will do later.
To those complaining about the 10-bit releases and hating on UTW for it (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE), you were given 2 days notice that their HQ releases will be done in 10-bit. That is two whole days to look for 10-bit supported players/codecs/filters/whatever. If you are both complaining about the encoding and hating UTW for doing so, then GTFO. You were given the heads up, therefore no excuse for it.
Apologies for any offense taken by this message extended to the non-haters/whiners. Those seeking troubleshooting assistance are not targeted by the above message.
@Abi Normal
>That is two whole days to look for 10-bit supported players/codecs/filters/whatever.
If you think that peoples watch anime only on PC you are retarded idiot.
@afun: if you’re watching it somewhere else you should have expected your lame hardware to fall behind at some point. That’s the main problem with hardware-based compatibility. Don’t blame the groups for moving forward, blame the hardware makers for being so reluctant to move forward as well.
All H.264 Profiles have been developed for years, just so happened no one bothered to move ahead and only really bothered using the most basic of them.
@Leon-Gun
>Donât blame the groups for moving forward
If i can see a difference between 8bit and 10bit i can agree with you, but here is no any noticible difference.
I think groups nowadays forgot that they are existing for users and not users existing for them.
It’s called a batch file and some encoders, and there are free solutions and/or GUI interfaces for most if not all of them. Reencode and remux your own copy in whatever format you need. That way you can even set it up so that every single file plays on your tablet/smartphone/WDTV/Boxee/whatever. Yeah it takes some research and time but these guys are giving you quality files to work from, and the weight of support for playing solutions that are explicitly unsupported by the fansub group FALLS SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE ONE USING THAT SOLUTION. At the end of the day you are being given free of charge something that has taken significant amounts of man-hours to complete.
If a little extra work on your part is enough to make you jump ship, then you’re being lazy and the issue is with you. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from handling your comparatively esoteric hardware yourself, or putting up with Xvid. I watch UTW subs because in general the quality of the translation and the encode is excellent. That’s enough to make me deal with minor inconveniences like file conversions for my quirky hardware.
I reinstalled KLCP TODAY in 10 minutes on my home theatre box (cobbled together from spare parts most acquired for free) to watch this. It took less time to set up than it took to download the episode. And I plan to reencode it myself to 8 bit for my shitty laptop. Because I knew when I bought that laptop that if DXVA couldn’t handle a video I’d be pretty much screwed. And that’s my own issue and my own playing solution to support, not UTWs.
Obviously, if you’re making an honest attempt and running into install issues, this isn’t directed at you. But simply throwing profanity about when you run into issues blaming 10 bit and UTW for using it isn’t going to get you any tech support or sympathy.
Even after installing CCCP and using CCCI to check if there were any conflicting codecs there’s still some artifacting and random color distortions at times, any suggestions?
Personally, my first recommendation would be to give K-lite Codec Pack Mega a try. The latest one plays this fine, though yes UTW only supports CCCP. It’s also possible your system is slightly underpowered or something is hogging your processor time in the background. Pull up task manager and look at how much your processor is running when you’re sitting at the desktop. Also, XP, Vista, or 7? And what kind of graphics chip? It could be an issue with what output settings you’re using.
Windows 7, Graphics chip is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M, processor is an Intel Core i7.
Also it isn’t as if the artifacts are constant or all over the place, they’re always at very specific locations in the video, but for like 85-95% of the video it’s fine quality wise. It’s just that the 3-5 times it does artifact it’s incredibly noticeable.
Is hi10 not playable in WMP? Before you ask, YES I have the latest CCCP and YES hi10 plays perfectly fine in my version of MPC.
But I’m wondering why it doesn’t play in WMP. All I get is a black screen. Any help?
@Umm: Yes, no problems playing the file on WMP. I installed CoreAVC 3.0.1.
To watch the whole episode though, I had to download the 8bit reencode, which looked fine to me qualitywise. To bad that someone decided to delete the torrent. Unless UTW release their own reencode of course.
To watch the whole episode though, I had to download the 8bit reencode –> Coz I am using XBMC to watch my stuff
That might of been the torrent I made, It got took down quick
@afun
Note who my message was directed to. All I simply stated was for haters who are all “qq 10-bit UTW suckzorz” that a memo was given and they should either keep their yaps shut or leave. Take a note from LHN9 before flaming, because I’m sick of people who are too lazy to prepare themselves for the HQ release constantly complaining. Dislike it then feel free to get your releases elsewhere, because 10-bit is here to stay.
I guess I can wait for UTW’s 8bit version (I hope they’ll publish one). Meanwhile, I should probably watch the original series before I start with this one.
Just a shame it was a crappy 8bit reencode to 10bit release by UTW, The mx-1280x720p 8bit raw that was used looked better than there 10bit release…
@mm: If you’re 7se7en, thank you. Maybe you could somehow collaborate with UTW, so that the reencoded aren’t taken down?
http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/?p=205
just follow that exactly ( works faster than cccp ) and significantly better than the internal filters
comes with cuda acceleration ( for nvidia gpus )
@proto: that should be tons and tons of processing power. If you can’t make K-lite or CCCP work take a shot at the link listed in phossil’s post as I’ve tested it and it works, it’s just a bit more involved. Also, take a check on Nvidia’s website for updated graphics card drivers.
Updated my graphics card drivers and that didn’t fix it unfortunately. Tomorrow i’ll look into the Mad-VR method to see if it is my long sought solution. Just sort’ve frustrating for me, since by all indications my PC is capable of handling the 10bit media especially after going through the CCCP and CCCI (To check if there were any codec conflicts) method. But I guess I’ll just have to pin all my hope on this.
You can also cobble together your own setup of the SMPlayer frontend from here: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/downloads.php?tr_lang=en – the one *WITHOUT MPLAYER* and the latest mplayer2 backend from here: http://mplayer2.srsfckn.biz/ – one marked latest.
Extract the smplayer archive, and then place the files in the mplayer2 archive in the folder you get from extracting smplayer. Run SMPlayer from that folder, and then go to Options->Preferences->General where it says “mplayer executable” , click the box next to the file path, and browse to the location of the mplayer2 executable you placed in the smplayer folder. *Should be mplayer2-20110921 or something similar*
Keep in mind that this does not set file associations, make icons, or anything else, and that if you move the SMPlayer folder you’ll have to reset the mplayer executable location.
This does work, I just tested it out. Not my usual method and not ideal, but a possible option barring all else.
Holy crap that looks gorgeous, I’ve never seen that quality animation out of a t.v. release!
But back on topic, am I the only one that wants Kariya to pull through and win even though I know how it ends? Everytime I see Zoken I wanna punch something.
Man, playing through Heaven’s Feel screws with you so bad…..
@kevin: oh yes, yes it does. That is one deep, powerful, disturbing and beautiful piece of work, Heaven’s Feel. And Zouken fills me with rage every time I see his rotten face.
Good to know that I’m not the only person that wants Zouken to feel some serious pain…
just updated to the latest version of k-lite codec pack (7.7.8) but neither vlc, MPC, nor normal windows media player plays this file properly
just downloaded latest version of CCCP and installed with default settings and everything works fine.
If you are still having problems with CCCP and MPC try the alpha vlc release.
From the original Fall 2011 Plans announcement:
[spoiler]
Jellyblob says:
September 29, 2011 at 9:15 am
FOR VLC USERS:
As DaftMink says, you need a nightly build (i.e. experimental).
Use the following link and pick whatever floats your boat out of the bottom 3.
http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win32/last/
Just install and play as usual, pretty simple.
[/spoiler]
I grabbed the .exe, installed it, and it just worked. Might be easier than messing around with codecs for some people đ
So I can run the Hi10p files just fine after updating to the latest version of CCCP. My issue is what are the benefits of regular 8-bit vs 10-bit, cause I can’t seem to see the difference visually. I noticed that the 720p 8-bit file was smaller and I didn’t notice any significant improvements in the 10-bit file, so if somebody would like to give me some good side by side screen shot examples of why 10-bit is better and worth the larger file size, that would be great, cause I’m not convinced until then.
CCCP dithers everything down to 8-bit when playing 10-bit files due to the shitty ffdshow its using, madVR is really the best way to play 10-bit right now, but a good compromise is the LAV filters included in K-lite. 10-bit basically allows better compression (so that means instead of 350mb at crf22, we can get 350mb at crf20), and reduces banding. Other than that 10-bit has little visual difference. You don’t need to be convinced, but come the next year, alot more fansubbers will be.
This anime stats are :
Moe level : Medium
Action level : Very High
Animation level : Very High
Angst level : High
That cute little Rin and gorgeous Iri make my heart want to stop anytime.
Can you guys change the karaoke? Giant red glowing words are extremely distracting (since there’s no red of that color in the opening). Not to mention it blocks a good chunk of the screen. I swear your Carnival Phantasm karaoke was a lot better than this.
@random
Yah it will be dealt with for ep2. I was tired by that point.
I am seeing acid on mine a few times ><…
I am used Kmplayer (updated) but it still shows acid.
I've used DivX players too, shows less acid but still has acids.
Which kind of players are recommended?
I've looked at LHN9's comment, though it looks far too complicated and not ideal as he or she says.
…..
So what I did was I downloaded VLC player and installed this thing from
http://www.cccp-project.net/download.php?type=cccp
and
http://codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_mega.htm
turns out there is no acid anymore…
I’m not sure it that was the reason why though…..
can you set the quant to 11 or 9?
@LHN9
And don’t forget to set multi-threads properly in Preferences, Performance, Threads for decoding (MPEG-1/2 and H.264 only)
@GGG: Ah yes. Noticed that after I packaged it back up into a zip file. Left it that way so it will at least work on whatever system people try it on.
I stuck it up on megaupload if people want it, but I’m not sure what UTW’s policy on those kinds of links are. Guess I’ll know if my post gets removed.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E5S69Z3T
Extract it somewhere sensible, and run the smplayer exectutable. Open a 10bit file from within smplayer. It should work. If you want, you can fix the multi-threading to read how many cores you have on your computer, but it isn’t strictly necessary.
NVM it doesn’t save the file path between systems. You’ll still have to select the correct mplayer2 file from the options menu as per my previous instructions if you want to use it. Sorry about that.
wtf, millions of comments
Already over 270 comments and no one’s discussing about the series. Everyone’s busy (pick at least one):
a) trolling Hi10P;
b) teaching people to play Hi10P;
c) trolling anti-Hi10P trolls;
d) hating;
e) trolling haters;
f) secretly laughing at everyone else;
g) doing something else related to the above (please specify).
This is like the one post with most comments and 10% of them are about the series itself. Wow.
Hi10P is evil, MKV is evil, H.264 is evil, softsubs are evil. Let’s go back to fully hardsubbed WMV3+MP3 on AVI releases, shall we? OHWAIT, but this internet thing is extra evil, so let’s go back to distributing our stuff on CDs… Oops, I meant VHS tapes.
I’m sick and tired of whiners who would rather stop the times than be arsed to follow a guide and update their software. UTW, go ahead with Hi10P, and don’t turn back; those who wish to stay behind can as well be left behind.
Question here. Why did you translate Byakuya’s magical energy as ‘mana’? He can’t have any mana as it is energy withing the atmosphere, so it meant either ‘prana’ or ‘od’. Or simply ‘magical energy’, which they all mean. I think most people who watch this show already know a bit about Nasuverse and I’m a little surprised that nobody pointed this out yet…
If you look at http://utw.me/2011/09/29/fall-2011-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-25382 youâll see that ar said «If it affects enough people I might consider doing a slightly later 8-bit release, but it definitely wonât be at release time due to encode time».
What I was going to do was to sit and wait patiently for that later 8-bit release. However, it’s already two days since the 10-bit release, and thus I’m ready to believe that ar has quit his original possibility of the above said intention. So I’m getting Kanjouteki’s 8-bit 720p hardsubbed repack of UTW script from http://www.nyaa.si/?page=torrentinfo&tid=249856 torrent. Technically it’s still UTW, but better fit for my single-core Celeron 2.4GHz and DXVA on PowerColor HD4670 1GB DDR3 AGP videocard.
I’m posting the link here in the hope that helps my 8-bit fellows.
Please STOP encoding with 10bit! It breaks DXVA playback. It breaks network streamer playback (WDTV Live). It breaks phone playback. There’s all these downfalls and no real benefit. Slightly smaller files means nothing in today’s multi-terrabyte storage solutions. Yes, I can play 10bit video files on my PC but you literally broke playback on everything else and it’s just ludicrous to do it. Other groups jumped blindly on the 10bit bandwagon without putting forth any thought as to what this would do and here UTW, in some dimwitted desire to make sure their “e-penis” measures up, blindly followed suit.
Shame on you. Shame on you all.
If you’ll reference my post a page or so back, UTW explicitly says that they ONLY support using CCCP on a PC. Every other playback solution you’ve listed is an issue they have no obligation to provide support for. And every issue you’ve listed can be remedied with a bit of research and time on your part. And XviD will work beautifully in all of those situations if you simply won’t spend the time fixing your own problems.
His issue there, LHN9, is that it’s time he has to take out of his busy schedule to fix, where he could instead invest that time at whining to UTW to take time out of their even busier schedule and fix it for him. Gotta love this “fansub groups exist for me” attitude going around lately.
@Haxton: I totally missed it but yes, it shouldn’t be mana. The best compromise would be to call it magical energy in order to not alienate those who aren’t that well-versed in Nasuverse terminology (since prana is a term that will likely confuse many). Using the term mana will bring trouble down the line if there’s parts where the plot differentiates between Mana and Od (like in Heaven’s Feel climactic battles).
10-bit release you guys did is excellent. Don’t have any problems with it. Thanks for the hardwork.
@Leon-Gun: And it likely will become an source of confusion if they adapt Heaven’s Feel like the show so far is heavily hinting towards. Which is fine by me!
@LHN9 That’d be nice but I wonder if Studio DEEN still has rights over the F/SN anime.
@Nogib
http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/?p=205&cpage=5#comment-979
Just follow this guide 100% and get Reclock
Your TV should be something like akin to
Source -> mpc-hc ->
—lavsplitter -> lav video (CUDA/Nvidia) -> madvr -> TV
———–lavsplitter -> ffdshow audio -> reclock -> TV
(set to 16-235 range ) for the TV
you only need lavfilter / madvr / mpc-hc ( 3751 ) ffdshow 9-22-2011 /reclock
Updated CCCP and still got acid, but when I used the updated CCCP codecs with the old MPC application (saved in a temp directory), it worked fine.
@lobster
In MPC-HC->Options->Internal Filters->Transform Filters->Disable All H.264 Decoders.
That should solve the problem.
Just wanted to add my voice to this. Hi10p is great and all, but it just seems a little premature to force it on everyone. If the release version of VLC doesn’t support it, then it’s not yet ready for prime time.
@therationalpi: Since when have fansubbers even LIKED VLC. I believe their general agreement is “VLC sucks”.
pleaaseee.. dont make this the last fate ever made đź
I’m not even trying to troll here but can someone explain the benefits of hi10? Supposedly it increases quality, but I can’t see any difference at 720p at least. Was it really worth switching over so soon?
@Hello
It’s a 48min episode … 500mb
look at the other utw releases … 400+mb for 24min with a 8bit release
so you either get better quality with the same bitrate (in this case a 800+mb episode) or you get the same quality with 30-40% less filesize
I mean filesize not bitrate oops
so better quality with the same filesize as a 8bit release or less filesize with same quality
Playback is fine for me with the latest versions of MPC-HC with CoreAVC.
Dear UTW group,
though being thankful for your previous releases,
I have decided not to upgrade my PC for the sole purpose of watching your 10bit-only Fate/Zero,
and thus I am willing to watch Hatsuyuki’s http://hatsuyuki-fansubs.com/releases/70-sora/763-c3-01.html instead (which is 8bit).
your current computer’s specs?
you most likely won’t even need to upgrade…
I am not really affected by this change to 10-bit but to those who are using Macs, avoid using VLC for MKV files, not until they release an update that supports the 10-bit conversion. In the meantime, try MPlayer.
http://www.mplayerosx.ch/
Or you can also get Perian, which is a component for Quicktime so you can play MKV files by pressing spacebar.
http://www.perian.org
@Leon-Gun It’s not really a matter of VLC being any good, it’s just a good indicator of what’s “widely supported.” Because it’s open source, often when VLC picks up some codec, it’ll filter down into other projects like Boxee. I rarely use VLC, but it’s my backup when I really want to watch something and it’s not running quite right.
@rationalpi: Valid train of thought but what I meant is that the anime fansub community marches at the beat of their own drum. They’re infamous for moving ahead of the pack.
@Mithgol the Webmaster………..
ohhh, faggot, i see (ÂŹ_ÂŹ)
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upgrade? my laptop is only T6500 @2,1GHz and VGA 512 DDR2. it plays fine. my desktop? only E5300. and it plays 1080p 10-bit finely.
TL;DR
no one need ur pathetic words and no one will care about u â(-ïœĄïœ°;)â
News!!!
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-10-06/fate/zero-bd-box-release-to-add-cut-scenes
Btw, in Nasuverse, there are two kinds of maryoku, Mana and Odo.
So I think it’s wrong to translate Maryoku as Mana.
Magical energy or Prana, I guess?
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Prana
I already mentioned that. The most common translation of [i]maryoku[/i] is probably [i]magical energy[/i], since the term [i]prana[/i] might confuse people who don’t know the Nasuverse enough.
UTW doesn’t care about black people .. . . . . .
dual*
@NHK: this is actually pretty important, especially when they talk about a Magus magical strength. Od is basically the magi’s equivalent of a power level (along with the amount and quality of their magic circuits).
ahh, i wish kariya wouldve won..
anways, would you guys consider re-encoding UBW for 10-bit? sicne your initial release is quite, well, BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG…
@Leon-gun: Agreed. If a character were to say “Your maryoku is not enough to defeat me”, translating maryoku as Mana would contradict everything. Because mana is the magical energy that exist in the air, while od/odo is the magical energy a magus produce.
@NHK: Well, there’s more factors like how much prana a magus can process through his magic circuits without backlash (and how many circuits he has to begin with) but overall yes, Od determines how much strength he has as they use their own magical energy to initiate the spell (mana is used to mantain the spell in place).
Maybe the reason it bugs me so much is because Fate/Stay Night actually explains the subcategories of magical energy several times.
I’m well aware of the distinction between the two types of maryoku, thank you very much. From my understanding, ăă (natural mana) and ăȘă (internal mana or “Od”) are the exact same thing except they differ only in where they exist (the former is mana produced by and existing in nature, and the latter is mana as existing in the Mage). Od is simply mana that a Mage’s magical circuits have filtered and collected from the external surroundings (ie. natural mana); a Mage’s magical circuits do not create mana per se. There is no characteristic difference at all between natural and internal mana (read: they are the exact same thing) other than where the Mage got the mana from once channeled to perform magic.
My decision to translate maryoku as “mana” was a conscious one. I think we can all agree that mana is linguistically equivalent to maryoku as used in the Nasuverse. “Magical energy” is long and pedantic, and given how often maryoku is mentioned in the Nasuverse it’s pointless and retarded to use the longer, less commonly-used term in English when there is no real need to. Should the distinction between the two types of mana even need to be made, distinguishing between the two is easy, like I already did in the above: simply translate ăă as “natural mana” and ăȘă as “internal mana”. Nothing of value is lost, given that ăă and ăȘă are simply types of maryoku.
And let’s not even talk about using “prana” (as suggested by that w/e TypeMoon wiki thing). I’m not using some random Indian substitute term just because it’s somehow wrong to use mana when maryoku == mana anyway.
I do believe I made it quite clear in my TypeMoon translations that my experience has been entirely rooted in the original Japanese and that I don’t care very much for how the terms have been previously translated. Just because it’s been done before, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s 100% correct and I have to agree with it. Neither am I going to waste my time reading up on how the terms have been translated before when differences exist between official and fan translations (and even between separate fan translations) of the terms anyway.
http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/?p=205
in case someone is still having acid problems and the like, I’m using the MPC + HC with LAV and madvr atm.
Wow, I didn’t know you release this on Hi10p!!
I’ll start the download right away!! ^^
hey, i’ve downloaded ep 1 for this, updated my MPC, 64-bit, now i couldn’t see anything on my video, only the audio can be heard.. any way to fix this?? :S
forget wht i’ve said… i dled another type of MPC [CCCP] as stated from the previous comments.. no more acid, and no more black screen~ <3 thanks đ
http://www.cccp-project.net/download.php?type=cccp
I downloaded and installed this – http://www.cccp-project.net/download.php?type=cccp – on default settings, cause I have no idea what any of that mumbo jumbo means anyway (>_<). The 10-bit files play perfectly on MPC, but the thing is, I don't want to use MPC. Anyone know how I can play 10-bit on Windows Media Player?
i thought it was every 10 years… not every 60
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ED?
@subaru: if you mean the war, there’s special reasons why the 5th War happened only ten years after the 4th. Usually it takes the Grail 60 years to reappear (and it appears in a different spot from 4 specific places every war).
I can not wait to be able to watch this once I can get xbmc to play 10bit files. As I have literally thousands of gb of anime I need and use the databasing features of xbmc to keep track of everything.
why can’t i see any subtitles?
unable to play by Using mplayer or VLC on Linux. and I’ve tried to compile the latest ffmpeg and mplayer with x264 but still crash on your 10 bits files. Only able to play this on my Mac by using MplayerX from the App store. and I don’t use windows.
@betterhans…………. open this
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer2-on-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
and install SMPlayer as the GUI. it will works! sorry i just using Ubuntu. never try with another distro
ummm when i dled it its a green screen….
Just wondering… who directed the animation for this ep?
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It must be taken into consideration if they accept gamers from other country.