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Fate Zero – 23

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*tear*

P.S.: Nico script grade: 4/5

Another decent script this week, though the editing was slightly lacking. Translator-isms like “heart is dancing” really shouldn’t exist in professional subs (not to mention the translation inconsistency of such a key phrase with previous episodes).

93 Thoughts on “Fate Zero – 23

  1. neobowman on June 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm said:

    @JHN There was no way Rider was winning that battle. Gilgamesh would just have Enuma Elished his army, restrained him with enkidu and killed him with GoB or Ea. Even if he had the chariot, it wouldn’t have worked. You know what Enkidu first restrained? A magic cow.

  2. bakakubi on June 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm said:

    Manly tears for Rider ;_;
    Man his death is one of the most emotional event ever, even though I saw it coming.

  3. aetherdemon on June 10, 2012 at 3:09 pm said:

    Just wow. Some idiots are in here trying to spoil the fact the Iskander dies, but anyone with even an ounce of brain matter would have known that he was going to die from episode 1. Haven’t you seen fate stay night? try harder trolls.

    That being said, I was still sad to see Iskander die, but I’m very excited to be nearing the conclusion and final battle.

  4. @raze

    if you you want that passage to sound correct it needs to be the king james version, period. it sounds good -because- its in olden english, making it sound more important than it really is. no one quotes bible passages from the new international version. they dont sound good.

    if you say “my cup runneth over” even people who dont read the bible know what youre talking about.

  5. Arisano on June 10, 2012 at 3:37 pm said:

    Arrrgh… Ufotable turned the most brilliant gil’s attack into something obscure. I hate them. They crushed the very one thing, which could make me some sympathetic to him.

  6. anonymous on June 10, 2012 at 3:45 pm said:

    ahh.. i knew he will died. not because of novels or stay night, but his face is clearly like someone that prepares for his death. probably its around after and before the fight with caster, you already see the hint on his face. damn, i like the ufotable for making it feels so real, but i wish they can make his ends more exciting, the scene of oceanos feels so lazily created.

    [spoiler]on the side note, poor saber. i think she will be crying like a helpless child in next episode without even sure what she should do and ends up dissapear without knowing anything (fate route kinda “saved” her from despair though xD)[/spoiler]

  7. Vuken on June 10, 2012 at 4:54 pm said:

    @Arisano

    Yet the way they portrayed Gilga’s Enuma Elish is not necessarily inaccurate – when he used it against Saber in FSN he wasn’t using it seriously, he drew it out purely out of whim. Had he used Enuma Elish’s full potential in FSN, Saber would’ve been obliterated like Iskander’s army.

    So, the way it is shown in FSN as a beam similar to Excalibur’s blast can simply be seen as only a fraction of its true power. Gilgamesh’s greatness weakness is his own arrogance, which led to his death in the novel’s three routes because he never once used Ea’s full power due to not finding someone worthy of using it against.

    That said, I believe it was quite good of Ufotable to present Enuma Elish the way they did, simply cracking the whole freaking world apart – that in itself is entirely badass.

  8. boingman on June 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm said:

    “heart is dancing”
    –> That was the “excited” part when Waver and Rider were talking, right?

    Great episode, I nearly shed a tear.

  9. John Titor on June 10, 2012 at 6:04 pm said:

    You guys should announce the shows your going to do for the Summer 2012 anime season.

  10. MarinerBert on June 10, 2012 at 6:19 pm said:

    Archer is ridiculously overpowered. But to have Rider go down without even scratching him? I shed manly tears for Iskander.

  11. neobowman on June 10, 2012 at 8:19 pm said:

    I watched the thing and the way Gilgamesh calls Waver “kid” irks me. It sounds completely off with the rest of his speech. Too informal. Might be a less correct translation, but something like “boy” would fit with the rest of the sentance I think. Also, for the Blu-Ray, I think using the Light Novel translation as a guide would help. The light novel translation has some really good lines that kind of made me feel disappointed with these subs. Not saying copy them word-for-word, but use it as reference.

    http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero:Act_16_Part_1

  12. newbowman’s got it right, this episode justified Tokiomi’s initial overwhelming arrogance at their certainty of winning the Grail War for simply having summoned Gilgamesh.

    Make no mistake, this defined what a curb stomp is to the tee; doesn’t make it any less manlier though. Well played Iskander, at least he chose the flashiest blaze of glory to go out in.

  13. Shadowknight on June 10, 2012 at 11:52 pm said:

    A manly tear was shed today for the King of Conquerors. And a few tears of sympathy for poor Arturia. She couldn’t bring herself to pass judgement on Lancelot and Guinevere, and it drove her best knight to madness. Still shocked that Gilgamesh let Waver live. He’s cocky and completely full of himself, but I don’t think he’s quite as batshit insane as he is in F/sn.

    Strange note though. Supposedly, this season was supposed to be 13 episodes, like the first. That means 3 more episodes. I don’t see how. We’ll be finishing off Lancelot next week, and that just leaves the fight between Kiritsugu and Kirei and Saber and Gilgamesh.

  14. Progeusz on June 10, 2012 at 11:52 pm said:

    Iskandar and Gilgamesh are walking examples of pure epicness. Battle was disappointing though.
    RIP motorcycle.

  15. Shirt on June 11, 2012 at 1:02 am said:

    @Shadowknight
    This is vanilla Gilgamesh, the original King of Heroes, different to the Gilgamesh you’re familiar with in F/SN (if you’ve gone through the VN you’d know how and why). Also, I’d imagine at least one of the last episodes will be one of those meta-experiences inside the Grail.

  16. Dragon of the Black on June 11, 2012 at 1:55 am said:

    Just a question of curiousity?
    [spoiler]
    When Lancelot reveals himself, you have the translation of Saber’s whisper as “Arondight”. Why not “A Round Knight” or (a good translation IMHO) “A Knight of the Round”.
    [/spoiler]

  17. Subby on June 11, 2012 at 2:15 am said:

    @Dragon of the Black
    Arondight is the name of Lancelot’s sword, a noble phantasm.

  18. @Dragon of the Black: of course it’s not “A Round Knight” because “Arondight” is a sword that sir lancelot’s possess. googling dude

  19. macxxx007 on June 11, 2012 at 3:24 am said:

    Alas… the inevitable happened… thanks so much for delivering this episode… THANKS SO MUCH!

  20. Dragon of the Black on June 11, 2012 at 3:31 am said:

    @Subby: Thanks much.
    @Dang, I wouldn’t have thought to Google it because seeing it, it sounded to me like she was describing the person, not a weapon. Hence, my ear heard “a round knight”.

  21. Iron Man on June 11, 2012 at 10:30 am said:

    I think Archer’s Ea is more accurate in F/Z since Ea is supposed to be a sword that destroys worlds, hence the giant crack in the ground, not some red beam of light.

  22. Thanks! 😀

  23. overmage on June 11, 2012 at 2:26 pm said:

    @Iron Man: It’s not about accuracy. The F/SN Ea is the low-powered version, which summons a column of false-space time generated by wind pressure to pulverize foes. Gilgamesh did not consider anyone to be worthy of it in F/SN, and only in F/Z, against Rider, did he consider someone to be on his level and thus worthy of using the true power.

    He also use the true power once more in F/HA but that’s another story. Simply put, the sword has two power settings.

  24. Break on June 11, 2012 at 9:30 pm said:

    yep, also while gil does say he wasnt affected by the grail’s madness in F/SN, its quite obviosu in every other iteration of him that he was very well affected by it. well it shoudlve been obvious; mad people never actually notice that they are mad. i wasnt sure if he was affected or not in F/SN, and i guess Nasu wasnt sure which route to take for that at that ppoint either, but its prety obvious that it really is likw that, the grail added thta certain bit of jerass evilany to him he ha in F/SN. just wanted to say that… btw on another note, i didnt read the novel yet so, are there maybe any explanatiosn as to how exactly ea’s second/full power setting works? i mean its still.. spinning and stuff.

  25. Leon-Gun on June 12, 2012 at 3:11 am said:

    @Break: I think he’s more or less restrained through a lot of it but when it comes to Saber his insanity levels spark. But in other parts hes actually still the same old Gil. In UBW he acts like a dick because his opponent is a mere human (but he follows Kirei’s plan out of respect for Kirei so he has some sanity) and in the last arc he follows his kingly duties to the end without any insane shenanigans. SO it’s only the Fate Routes interactions with Saber which turn him into “mad-mode!Gilgamesh”.

  26. Break on June 12, 2012 at 2:19 pm said:

    @Leon-Gun hm, thats true again. although i think the fact that sirou was a “mere human” was not exactly what pissed him off (he did have respect for waver, and his true friend, enkidu, was also, genetically speaking , a full mere human and he even adventured with him) but rather that soemone who had really nothing interestign about him (in his eyes) opposing him, because shirou is, as stressed many times in UBW, empty and only borrowed his ideals from kerry, withotu actually undertsanding him…

    but then again i wodner why its only saber that makes him mad. i know he loves her and is obsessed with her, bt he acted differently in zero (okay idfferent author, btu stil you know.) did the grail turn him into a yandere?!

  27. HyperJYGBSP on June 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm said:

    Personally, I think they should have you know, made Ionion Hetaroi more impressive.
    I mean it’s first (and only other) appearance is far better.
    Otherwise Ea no problems IMHO
    Last, did they really have to put the Berserker VS Saber in this episode?
    Kind of sad they could not separate it(I would have preferred like 2 episodes)
    No matter

  28. Leon-Gun on June 13, 2012 at 5:18 am said:

    @Break: Yeah, I’d think so. He became obsessed with the idea that he had found a way of making Saber not just his posession but human. She could now be truly his possession for all his existence. I also get the idea that Gilgamesh just ran out of patience at seeing the once proud King of Knights forever stumbling forward to her soulcrushing ideal starting to succumb to the caring of another person, and not just that, he must have known she was almost killed by Rider and Berserker, so he lost his patience and decided he had to act before losing his chance (Kirei basically admits it was more or less he that actually managed to keep Gilgamesh more or less calm until his appearance during the Caster encounter). So yeah, GIlgamesh just lost his cool and wasn’t willing to let a weakened Saber slip through his hands again.

    In UBW you can notice Saber is in prime form and as such he instead focuses on the “Faker” in front of him that dares challenge him with fake ideals (he loves people who hold pure soulcrushing ideals, but Shirou doesn’t truly believe his ideal…until the end at least) since Saber had battled proudly. At the very least that’s what you can gather. After all, GIl does acknowledges Saber several times in UBW, but in a very more calm manner, almost quite like in Fate/Zero..

  29. Judgement is misspelled at 5:13, fyi. Great ep, great release. Thanks so much 😀

  30. For your information, FYI, judgment is correctly spelled without an ‘e’ after the ‘g’. And the timestamp for your suggestion was not 5m13s but 5m05s. I would encourage you to consider a line of work other than editing.

  31. Sekainoowaride on June 13, 2012 at 2:38 pm said:

    @Tal: You burn !

  32. Leon-Gun on June 13, 2012 at 6:32 pm said:

    Judgement is still a valid variant (and honestly more intuitive but who am I to judge here). If you want to burn someone for being a bad editor, go look for, you know, critical misspellings and mistakes.

  33. Clannad_92 on June 13, 2012 at 7:10 pm said:

    sob, sob…
    goodbye Rider…
    and I agree with Rider vs Gilgamesh is an epic battle (too bad it is a short one), but Shirou vs Gilgamesh ftw!!

    hoping for heartbreaking moment at the near-end of Fate/Zero (starting with Iri goes insane T_T)

  34. furykury1 on June 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm said:

    Since I don’t know where else to ask this question, here it is: Does UTW plan on releasing the dual audio version of Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works? Arigatou!!!!

  35. Break on June 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm said:

    @furykury uhm why would they? they never did anythign like this and there really isnt a reason to do so either, plus its not really justifiable.
    @Leon-Gun oh, youre right. i guess in UBW i was too distracted by his sweet jacket to think about taht xD although Gil is aweosme and one of my favourtie characters, its still very VERY hard for me to forgive him ripping ilya’s heart out. ilyaaaaaaa……. its equally hard to forgive nasu for not making the ilya route.. i know they had budget problems back then, but with all the moeny they get now i dont see a reason why they coldnt have written and added it in later, as an add-on maybe or something.

  36. Shoujo Q on June 15, 2012 at 5:29 am said:

    @Break: Hmmm addon route? You mean like the alluded-to Sacchin route in the alluded-to/teased Tsukihime remake?

    Ha ha ha.

  37. Leon-Gun on June 15, 2012 at 6:11 am said:

    Hey, we got a whole series of sequels to Sacchin’s route (Melty Blood). Ilya got nothing.

  38. motorcycle on June 15, 2012 at 8:46 am said:

    Berserker destroyed Saber’s motorcycle, so inhumane 🙁

  39. @Shoujo Q well they are actually always sayign theyre workign on the tsukihime remake.. the thing we never heard anythign of again is Girl’s work.
    @Leon-Gun yep! exactly this cruelty is what sets me off! ilya literally got nothing, not even a decent figure (except that one with her swimsuit, but thats kinda meh so im not counting it) or whatever!
    ….well she does have her own spinoff manga and it is pretty good with the comedy, fanservice and action and parody, btu still its kidna in parallel universe and doesnt include any hints whatsoever as to what woudlve happened in her route…. i mean she already has a predestined and soon runnign otu lifespan in fate, this is exactly the kind of thing nasu always sets up for someone to break the rule epically, and we never get to see or read it…. plus since he cant be from any of the three routes we saw, and it was hitned at somewhat throughotu, i think archer is the shirou from ilya’s route timeline, so we also never get to see whats up with that in case im right… and ilya is just awesome, she deservves her own route and the right to live more than just 20 or so years a smuch as any other heroine.

  40. I love you forever Iskandar!!!! That’s a TRUE MAN!

  41. Niekura on June 16, 2012 at 4:47 pm said:

    Rider & Waver are the best pair, at least for me. It’s quite sad to see Rider disappear. But beside that, does anyone notice that the next episode has 4 animation director? I’m assuming next will be two times long than the usual episodes.

  42. FARDIN on March 31, 2013 at 3:40 am said:

    hi.i cant download epside 23,24 (HD) links doesnt work.please fix it.

    thianks.

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