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*tear*
P.S.: Nico script grade: 4/5
Another decent script this week, though the editing was slightly lacking. Translator-isms like “heart is dancing” really shouldn’t exist in professional subs (not to mention the translation inconsistency of such a key phrase with previous episodes).
FIRSTO
Thanks for the third to last Fate Zero, but Im still wondering where Nisemonogatari is, I bet its on the typesetting phase.
Whatever, sleep is for the week anyways
I may be more tired than I thought.
thanks guys… been hitting F5 for like two hours now…
Now awake, Ea. A stage befitting you has been prepared! Come now and look up – to Enuma Elish!!!
this day is too much =.=’ MIA vs. BOS, Pacquiao vs. Bradley, Nadal vs. Djokovic, Euroleague. +++tons of animuuuuuuu.
Thank You Guys ! 🙂
Thanks for the episode! I’m working through the Fate/Staynight VN, Finally finished the Fate route! Now onto the Unlimited Blade Works route
just came gallons
Thank you, guys!
If that *tear* and picture combo = spoiler… lol :C
Thanks for the ep!
It’s 10th of June, Alexander III of Macedon (20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC)
wew
anyway TQ for the release
Why didn’t upload to depositfiles anymore?
This episode marks the most epic, manly, and heroic sprint of all time.
Iskander, you have solidified yourself as one of the best heroic spirits ever.
You shall be missed sir.
It’s scary how even at this battle, Gilgamesh wasn’t even trying. He just stood there:P
This episode is proof of how much Gilgamesh underestimated Shirou at the UBW route.
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Rider was defeater, like how Pacquiao lost today. Damn.
^defeated I mean.
i can’t wait to see this on blu-ray!
I’m usually not one to notice quality issues, but it seems like the quality this time is really bad. Was there an issue with the raws or something?
Thank you for doing this show (and for the SD version of course.).
Finally…,
[spoiler]raging Lancelot.[/spoiler]
Bring it on, episode 24!
Wow, Pacqiao, Iskander, Celtics lost…is this a coincedence??
might wanna change the bible passage at the end to king james for a better reading translation. that passage is one of the most well known and just doesnt sound right without ‘my cup runneth over’
@James
Yeah, MX’s broadcast was pretty bit-starved this episode, and it actually looked a lot worse than what you see in the video for the release. It’s probably one of the worse TV broadcasts I’ve seen of late, due to the reds/purples/etc they used for this episode, and the fact that blocking stands out like a sore thumb when it appears. I did what I could to clean up and conceal the blocking/artefacts/etc, but there’s only so much you can do with some of those scenes where there are very few good pixels to work with.
@ar
That explains a lot.
Thanks UTW!
Reminds me of when television stations in the 1990s would deliberately put up a weather warning on the bottom corner of the screen while they aired a made-for-TV movie, just to screw with the tens of thousands of households which were trying to record the movie to VHS. Our local NBC station was particularly bad about that. (They did it with both The Odyssey and Merlin.) Sure, it could just be a coincidence, but I can’t help but to wryly wonder if this was done deliberately to ensure that people will purchase the BDs. Sure, it may not apply as well today — what’s to keep someone from just downloading BD rips? — but I don’t think it’d stop the companies from trying.
Fantastic episode. Have watched the Rider scenes three or four times at this point. I would have liked it if the Berserker scenes could have been as good as the Rider ones but what can you do? Not everyone can be Rider.
Rider for SaiGAR 2012!@James
Heres a few frames from the TV broadcast (transport stream) if you and anybody else are curious. I just picked 3 random fairly bad frames (and there’s at least a good 3-4000 of them out of the whole episode, which i’d say is around ~10% of the episode roughly, and they’re at their worst during the Berserker and Saber fight scene.
Random Terrible Looking Frame 1
Random Terrible Looking Frame 2
Random Terrible Looking Frame 3
Random Terrible Looking Frame 4 – TV Broadcast
Random Terrible Looking Frame 4 – Release Encode
As you can see, there isn’t a great deal that can be done, but it’s possible to conceal some frames so they don’t distract too much from the overall viewing experience.
Frame 4 for example, there isn’t a great deal of the frame that can be recovered, but at the same time it can be possible to conceal and blend in the ugliness, so it’s more watchable overall.
Is it me, or is it that the torrent (high quality one) is unbelievably slow? I’m getting like 1/4 of the download speed.
GOB makes you GAR.
Why does the torrent come out as Fate/Zero Episode 5?
For the 720p. Misname? It’s also still episode 23…just the wrong file name.
Nvm, I found out why. It was my fault…
It’s not like you can do a better job, so that’s why you are “editing” (heh) the Niconico scripts, right?
Berserker is my favorite heroic spirit (after Saber of course), he is the raw strength with his aweseome armour.
Gil just an egoist peacock, who entered the “unlimited arsenal, and wine” cheat at the beginning of the game.
Ep 23 Epic!
I thought Iskandar running in the final charge looked funny….
*SPOILERS*
wtf he didn’t even touch Gilgamesh -_- that was incredibly underwhelming. I know Gil is heavily OP but he couldn’t even get in a glancing blow or even something to make Gil take a step back?
f*ck you Gil. you break the friggin game.
J is right, you fucked up the Psalms 23:5 passage. None of you heathens have a King James at hand? At least google that shit.
You fight with honour, Rider.
I give salute for you.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Np9ROZaky8s/Sj7WIlxL18I/AAAAAAAABIE/QRg0pfrltBA/s400/soldier+salute.jpg
In memoriam Iskandar Zulkarnain a.k.a. Alexander III of Macedon a.k.a. Alexander the Great (20/21 July 356 – 10/11 June 323 BC)
@ rs
Oh, but I can. I’m being pretty lenient with my nico sub comments and “grading”, because the quality of the nico subs are piss poor by any standard considering the fact that they’re supposed to be professionally translated. And I’m not even nitpicking here; they get stuff completely and objectively wrong, sometimes several times per episode, whether it be line misinterpretations, mistakes resulting from an unfamiliarity with the Nasuverse, or (sadly, this is the most common) simple, shocking technical translation errors that even amateurs wouldn’t make.
If this was some genre other than anime and the professional translator produced work this terrible, he’d be fired on the spot.
I also do plenty of actual editing, thank you. Anyone who has watched both the nico subs and our offering and isn’t a blind hater should be able to tell how different the two versions read and feel on the whole. I take great care to ensure the lines in our subs communicate what they’re supposed to, and I know for a fact that many rewatch our version to clarify what they didn’t get/got confused about when watching the nico stream.
@ J / Nnick
It’s well known that the KGV isn’t without its problems.
I do have the Bible at hand (several versions of them, in fact). It’s just that the one I used wasn’t, surprise surprise, the King James Version.
The KJV was published over 400 years ago. People don’t speak in Old English anymore.
If your point was that I didn’t realize it was Psalm 23, then you underestimate my scrutiny. I knew it was the Psalm from the very first line.
You can’t deny that the KJV of Psalm 23:5 is iconic, Raze. And hey, you know who sometimes uses archaic phrasing in the recital of ancient texts? Priests.
Must suck for you guys to be so impatient that you have to watch the show as it’s airing, and even refresh continually to see if the next episode is out (lol Oskuro). I’ve never had that problem. No, I’m going to patiently wait until everything is out in BD, and then watch both seasons in one go, for the full enjoyment, thank you very much. ; ) Thanks UTW, I’m glad the one anime I’m most looking forward to watching is in your capable hands.
I’m currently having seizures of how awesome this was.
And for those saying how underwhelming it is that Rider never touched Gilgamesh.
Gilgamesh is supposed to be extremely overpowered.
The fact that he had to use everything he has to stop Rider is prove enough how awesome Rider is. If Rider was just a tad faster with or without his horse or still had his chariot, Gilgamesh would have had some serious problems.
I’ve been looking forward to this since the start of the series… but I can’t believe they omitted Riders laugh from the charge.
In the sound dramas he starts hearing the ocean before he gets chained. He charges forward with Gil’s blades in him laughing like a madman. Really depressed that that wasn’t in it. It was an awesome laugh ;(
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I know some stuff has to be cut… but they even cut the convo they had before the drinks. That was pretty cool ;(
Thanks! 😀
[spoiler]I knew Rider was going to die, but I’m kinda glad Waver survived.[/spoiler]
@JHN There was no way Rider was winning that battle. Gilgamesh would just have Enuma Elished his army, restrained him with enkidu and killed him with GoB or Ea. Even if he had the chariot, it wouldn’t have worked. You know what Enkidu first restrained? A magic cow.
Manly tears for Rider ;_;
Man his death is one of the most emotional event ever, even though I saw it coming.
Just wow. Some idiots are in here trying to spoil the fact the Iskander dies, but anyone with even an ounce of brain matter would have known that he was going to die from episode 1. Haven’t you seen fate stay night? try harder trolls.
That being said, I was still sad to see Iskander die, but I’m very excited to be nearing the conclusion and final battle.
@raze
if you you want that passage to sound correct it needs to be the king james version, period. it sounds good -because- its in olden english, making it sound more important than it really is. no one quotes bible passages from the new international version. they dont sound good.
if you say “my cup runneth over” even people who dont read the bible know what youre talking about.
Arrrgh… Ufotable turned the most brilliant gil’s attack into something obscure. I hate them. They crushed the very one thing, which could make me some sympathetic to him.
ahh.. i knew he will died. not because of novels or stay night, but his face is clearly like someone that prepares for his death. probably its around after and before the fight with caster, you already see the hint on his face. damn, i like the ufotable for making it feels so real, but i wish they can make his ends more exciting, the scene of oceanos feels so lazily created.
[spoiler]on the side note, poor saber. i think she will be crying like a helpless child in next episode without even sure what she should do and ends up dissapear without knowing anything (fate route kinda “saved” her from despair though xD)[/spoiler]
@Arisano
Yet the way they portrayed Gilga’s Enuma Elish is not necessarily inaccurate – when he used it against Saber in FSN he wasn’t using it seriously, he drew it out purely out of whim. Had he used Enuma Elish’s full potential in FSN, Saber would’ve been obliterated like Iskander’s army.
So, the way it is shown in FSN as a beam similar to Excalibur’s blast can simply be seen as only a fraction of its true power. Gilgamesh’s greatness weakness is his own arrogance, which led to his death in the novel’s three routes because he never once used Ea’s full power due to not finding someone worthy of using it against.
That said, I believe it was quite good of Ufotable to present Enuma Elish the way they did, simply cracking the whole freaking world apart – that in itself is entirely badass.
“heart is dancing”
–> That was the “excited” part when Waver and Rider were talking, right?
Great episode, I nearly shed a tear.
You guys should announce the shows your going to do for the Summer 2012 anime season.
Archer is ridiculously overpowered. But to have Rider go down without even scratching him? I shed manly tears for Iskander.
I watched the thing and the way Gilgamesh calls Waver “kid” irks me. It sounds completely off with the rest of his speech. Too informal. Might be a less correct translation, but something like “boy” would fit with the rest of the sentance I think. Also, for the Blu-Ray, I think using the Light Novel translation as a guide would help. The light novel translation has some really good lines that kind of made me feel disappointed with these subs. Not saying copy them word-for-word, but use it as reference.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Fate/Zero:Act_16_Part_1
newbowman’s got it right, this episode justified Tokiomi’s initial overwhelming arrogance at their certainty of winning the Grail War for simply having summoned Gilgamesh.
Make no mistake, this defined what a curb stomp is to the tee; doesn’t make it any less manlier though. Well played Iskander, at least he chose the flashiest blaze of glory to go out in.
A manly tear was shed today for the King of Conquerors. And a few tears of sympathy for poor Arturia. She couldn’t bring herself to pass judgement on Lancelot and Guinevere, and it drove her best knight to madness. Still shocked that Gilgamesh let Waver live. He’s cocky and completely full of himself, but I don’t think he’s quite as batshit insane as he is in F/sn.
Strange note though. Supposedly, this season was supposed to be 13 episodes, like the first. That means 3 more episodes. I don’t see how. We’ll be finishing off Lancelot next week, and that just leaves the fight between Kiritsugu and Kirei and Saber and Gilgamesh.
Iskandar and Gilgamesh are walking examples of pure epicness. Battle was disappointing though.
RIP motorcycle.
@Shadowknight
This is vanilla Gilgamesh, the original King of Heroes, different to the Gilgamesh you’re familiar with in F/SN (if you’ve gone through the VN you’d know how and why). Also, I’d imagine at least one of the last episodes will be one of those meta-experiences inside the Grail.
Just a question of curiousity?
[spoiler]
When Lancelot reveals himself, you have the translation of Saber’s whisper as “Arondight”. Why not “A Round Knight” or (a good translation IMHO) “A Knight of the Round”.
[/spoiler]
@Dragon of the Black
Arondight is the name of Lancelot’s sword, a noble phantasm.
@Dragon of the Black: of course it’s not “A Round Knight” because “Arondight” is a sword that sir lancelot’s possess. googling dude
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Arondight
Alas… the inevitable happened… thanks so much for delivering this episode… THANKS SO MUCH!
@Subby: Thanks much.
@Dang, I wouldn’t have thought to Google it because seeing it, it sounded to me like she was describing the person, not a weapon. Hence, my ear heard “a round knight”.
I think Archer’s Ea is more accurate in F/Z since Ea is supposed to be a sword that destroys worlds, hence the giant crack in the ground, not some red beam of light.
Thanks! 😀
@Iron Man: It’s not about accuracy. The F/SN Ea is the low-powered version, which summons a column of false-space time generated by wind pressure to pulverize foes. Gilgamesh did not consider anyone to be worthy of it in F/SN, and only in F/Z, against Rider, did he consider someone to be on his level and thus worthy of using the true power.
He also use the true power once more in F/HA but that’s another story. Simply put, the sword has two power settings.
yep, also while gil does say he wasnt affected by the grail’s madness in F/SN, its quite obviosu in every other iteration of him that he was very well affected by it. well it shoudlve been obvious; mad people never actually notice that they are mad. i wasnt sure if he was affected or not in F/SN, and i guess Nasu wasnt sure which route to take for that at that ppoint either, but its prety obvious that it really is likw that, the grail added thta certain bit of jerass evilany to him he ha in F/SN. just wanted to say that… btw on another note, i didnt read the novel yet so, are there maybe any explanatiosn as to how exactly ea’s second/full power setting works? i mean its still.. spinning and stuff.
@Break: I think he’s more or less restrained through a lot of it but when it comes to Saber his insanity levels spark. But in other parts hes actually still the same old Gil. In UBW he acts like a dick because his opponent is a mere human (but he follows Kirei’s plan out of respect for Kirei so he has some sanity) and in the last arc he follows his kingly duties to the end without any insane shenanigans. SO it’s only the Fate Routes interactions with Saber which turn him into “mad-mode!Gilgamesh”.
@Leon-Gun hm, thats true again. although i think the fact that sirou was a “mere human” was not exactly what pissed him off (he did have respect for waver, and his true friend, enkidu, was also, genetically speaking , a full mere human and he even adventured with him) but rather that soemone who had really nothing interestign about him (in his eyes) opposing him, because shirou is, as stressed many times in UBW, empty and only borrowed his ideals from kerry, withotu actually undertsanding him…
but then again i wodner why its only saber that makes him mad. i know he loves her and is obsessed with her, bt he acted differently in zero (okay idfferent author, btu stil you know.) did the grail turn him into a yandere?!
Personally, I think they should have you know, made Ionion Hetaroi more impressive.
I mean it’s first (and only other) appearance is far better.
Otherwise Ea no problems IMHO
Last, did they really have to put the Berserker VS Saber in this episode?
Kind of sad they could not separate it(I would have preferred like 2 episodes)
No matter
@Break: Yeah, I’d think so. He became obsessed with the idea that he had found a way of making Saber not just his posession but human. She could now be truly his possession for all his existence. I also get the idea that Gilgamesh just ran out of patience at seeing the once proud King of Knights forever stumbling forward to her soulcrushing ideal starting to succumb to the caring of another person, and not just that, he must have known she was almost killed by Rider and Berserker, so he lost his patience and decided he had to act before losing his chance (Kirei basically admits it was more or less he that actually managed to keep Gilgamesh more or less calm until his appearance during the Caster encounter). So yeah, GIlgamesh just lost his cool and wasn’t willing to let a weakened Saber slip through his hands again.
In UBW you can notice Saber is in prime form and as such he instead focuses on the “Faker” in front of him that dares challenge him with fake ideals (he loves people who hold pure soulcrushing ideals, but Shirou doesn’t truly believe his ideal…until the end at least) since Saber had battled proudly. At the very least that’s what you can gather. After all, GIl does acknowledges Saber several times in UBW, but in a very more calm manner, almost quite like in Fate/Zero..
Judgement is misspelled at 5:13, fyi. Great ep, great release. Thanks so much 😀
For your information, FYI, judgment is correctly spelled without an ‘e’ after the ‘g’. And the timestamp for your suggestion was not 5m13s but 5m05s. I would encourage you to consider a line of work other than editing.
@Tal: You burn !
Judgement is still a valid variant (and honestly more intuitive but who am I to judge here). If you want to burn someone for being a bad editor, go look for, you know, critical misspellings and mistakes.
sob, sob…
goodbye Rider…
and I agree with Rider vs Gilgamesh is an epic battle (too bad it is a short one), but Shirou vs Gilgamesh ftw!!
hoping for heartbreaking moment at the near-end of Fate/Zero (starting with Iri goes insane T_T)
Since I don’t know where else to ask this question, here it is: Does UTW plan on releasing the dual audio version of Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works? Arigatou!!!!
@furykury uhm why would they? they never did anythign like this and there really isnt a reason to do so either, plus its not really justifiable.
@Leon-Gun oh, youre right. i guess in UBW i was too distracted by his sweet jacket to think about taht xD although Gil is aweosme and one of my favourtie characters, its still very VERY hard for me to forgive him ripping ilya’s heart out. ilyaaaaaaa……. its equally hard to forgive nasu for not making the ilya route.. i know they had budget problems back then, but with all the moeny they get now i dont see a reason why they coldnt have written and added it in later, as an add-on maybe or something.
@Break: Hmmm addon route? You mean like the alluded-to Sacchin route in the alluded-to/teased Tsukihime remake?
Ha ha ha.
Hey, we got a whole series of sequels to Sacchin’s route (Melty Blood). Ilya got nothing.
Berserker destroyed Saber’s motorcycle, so inhumane 🙁
@Shoujo Q well they are actually always sayign theyre workign on the tsukihime remake.. the thing we never heard anythign of again is Girl’s work.
@Leon-Gun yep! exactly this cruelty is what sets me off! ilya literally got nothing, not even a decent figure (except that one with her swimsuit, but thats kinda meh so im not counting it) or whatever!
….well she does have her own spinoff manga and it is pretty good with the comedy, fanservice and action and parody, btu still its kidna in parallel universe and doesnt include any hints whatsoever as to what woudlve happened in her route…. i mean she already has a predestined and soon runnign otu lifespan in fate, this is exactly the kind of thing nasu always sets up for someone to break the rule epically, and we never get to see or read it…. plus since he cant be from any of the three routes we saw, and it was hitned at somewhat throughotu, i think archer is the shirou from ilya’s route timeline, so we also never get to see whats up with that in case im right… and ilya is just awesome, she deservves her own route and the right to live more than just 20 or so years a smuch as any other heroine.
I love you forever Iskandar!!!! That’s a TRUE MAN!
Rider & Waver are the best pair, at least for me. It’s quite sad to see Rider disappear. But beside that, does anyone notice that the next episode has 4 animation director? I’m assuming next will be two times long than the usual episodes.
hi.i cant download epside 23,24 (HD) links doesnt work.please fix it.
thianks.