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Fate/Zero – 24

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P.S.: Nico script grade: 4/5

Almost there, nico. Almost there.

85 Thoughts on “Fate/Zero – 24

  1. Thanks! 😀

  2. Break on June 17, 2012 at 1:29 pm said:

    @anonymous well they wanted to do “girls work” last year but didnt, they might do itnow? also they announced a fate/kaleid liner prisma illya anime, but didnt give a definite date yet.

    it owudlve probably worked to accompany each of berserkers strong hits with a short cut over to kariya, writhign in pain and caughing blood and whatever every time berserker delivers a strong blow. that woudlve doen a good job of showing how much mana he sucked form his master at the time and how it whittled kariya down until no energy is left.

  3. przemoc on June 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm said:

    First, thank you UTW for constantly bringing FZ with decent script to the masses. Much appreciated!

    @Marelt: “the song called that plays during that fight scene?”
    I guess you’re talking about “the battle is to the strong”, 6th track from “Fate-Zero Original Soundtrack I” (“I”, because it was used a few times during first season too, like in eps 7+8 during Kiritsugu-Kayneth thread).

    @Tal: “A good episode but good lord was it rushed.”
    Fully agree about the abnormal speed of plot development (as it was shown, it’s hard to really call it ‘development’). Even though I haven’t read F/Z novels, some time switches and hops are blatantly disturbing, reminding me too of disastrous UBW movie pace.

    @Tal: “Enjoyed the direction and “cinematography” of the Kirei vs. Kiritsugu fight”, Cyrill’s “relatively high-quality fight between kirei and emiya”
    As for K-vs-K fight, if directing was not bad, its animation was actually mostly awful and jerky. Even drawing was inferior compared to other parts. For example look at the all “different” frames of Kiritsugu holding the gun in 0:54 (before still shot is showed up) – they are all terrible, yet not exceptional in this episode.

    @Cyrill: “Poor graphics, cheap animation”
    Animation quality issues are unfortunately a recurring problem of F/Z, happening in two scales: at episodes level and at the scenes level. BDs for 1st season fixed many problems, by redrawing faces, adding highlights, some CG or just improving overall picture quality (that one mostly by the features of used medium alone, but it wouldn’t be possible if input video quality wasn’t higher than in previous productions [check KnK and it’s supposititious 720p internal storage quality]), but AFAIR it didn’t go any further, beside introducing unseen before new footage. It’s interesting whether poor GoB shots will be improved for BluRay release, but I wouldn’t have too high hopes for that. Despite that, practically all GoB and weapon firing shots are still better than in UBW movie.

    @Cyrill: “And about graphics…”, “Were there the same drawers?”
    Well, they could be not and it’s nothing wrong (unless it means worse visual quality, of course). It’s pretty old practice to have different people responsible for same thing in different eps. Like in the times of classic anime production: Sailor Moon, there were many animation directors – from poor ones like Masahiro Ando and Akira Nakamura to great ones like Kazuko Tadano and Ikuko Ito. For this simple reason some episodes looked atrocious, but others were simply stunning.

    Looking at the given samples particularly. It’s not always whole bad or whole good thing. GoB from ep 5 vs ep 24 is a good example, because ripples of space look better in ep 5 (in ep 24 they are way too blurry), yet blades in ep 24 look more detailed and intriguing than in ep 5 in your sample (but also less crisper, I have to admit it). Though it’s not the overall truth for whole time – e.g. check ugly 19:50 or fucked up ripples in 21:03. Quality is going up and down, like a sine wave, for the whole latest ep.

    @ranting-myself
    Quality complaining aside (I guess we just all like to watch beautiful graphics and animation, shown in a faithful adaptation; also we expect more from better studios than some others), F/Z is still a nice show, above your average anime, that I am fully enjoying while watching despite its inevitable flaws here and there. It’s also thanks to ufotable, that’s why I’ll possibly check any of their future projects, like Girls’ Work or FSN: Heaven’s Feel (that would be nice, right? :>).

  4. przemoc on June 17, 2012 at 2:00 pm said:

    Damn, multiple new-lines are squeezed, making longer comments less readable. Now I see that Tal’s dots between paragraphs were quite useful…

  5. I get rly hrd whenever Kiritsugu appears.

  6. Cyrill on June 17, 2012 at 2:38 pm said:

    @przemoc
    >F/Z is still a nice show, above your average anim
    Truly it is, but my ass is being blown to pieces, when i think, how much cooler i could be, if ufotable cared less about minor shit and just gave some extra min to the main plot and relationship between characters, especially KxK and Saber-Berserker, battles and animation aside.
    Because in the end, F/Z really became like UBW – quite hard to follow a plot, which is not developed at all.
    Also
    > for 1st season fixed many problems, by redrawing faces, adding highlights, some CG or just improving overall picture quality
    I specially downloaded 11 ep to see, if they redraw unwatchable “flat”, pallid and longnecked Gilgamesh. Nope. And this was the most eyecatching QUALITY episode.

  7. @przemoc: Make no mistake, friend, that I chose the words “direction and ‘cinematography'” quite deliberately. 🙂 I agree with you 100% that the facial animation in the Kirei vs. Kiritsugu fight was horrendous compared with what we’re used to getting out of ufotable. Just like fans are noting, I too agree that this “horrendous” animation is still light years ahead of the animation you’ll find in most other 2011-2012 series, but the fall is so much harder when you know that the studio is capable of 10/10 greatness and then, for what amounts to the climactic series finale (since next week is pretty much wrap up), they deliver to you 8/10 or 7/10 quality. That 7/10 suddenly looks and feels like a 4/10 or a 5/10, just like how when you enter a theater room off the bright summer streets your vision is pitch black at first even though after your eyes adjust you can clearly appreciate that the room is dimly lit. What is objectively at least a 7/10 is suddenly thrust into the realms of a perceived 4/10 owing to the excellence of the animation in earlier episodes.
    .
    When I said I appreciated the direction and the “camera angles” (the “cinematography,” for lack of a better term in animation), what I meant was that I liked how the director and the lead animator decided to interpret this fight from the novel and bring it to life on screen. Some fans are already poking fun at the part where … [spoiler]Kirei fights Kiritsugu one-armed with his Executor-level martial arts prowess while Kirei tries desperately to slash him with a knife[/spoiler] … but I really loved that bit. Thought it was awesome. Shows just what a mothertruckin’ badass Kotomine Kirei is. FSN really wanted, really needed Fate/Zero to come along and develop this backstory for Kirei, to show us why he was such a fearsome adversary in FSN and why he took his competition in the Fifth Grail War so non-seriously. This is why. The direction in this fight was good, I feel, but the animation really dragged it down. It was hard to appreciate the faces (which blueprint-wise were amazing) when they felt so rough and poorly animated compared with the fare we got in the accursed Loli Rin episode that fucked over the Banquet of the Kings or the equally questionable full-length Alimango Island episode that occupied fewer than ten pages in the original novel. Those episodes were gorgeous, especially the Philippines one which looked honest-to-god like Kara no Kyoukai OAV material in places, and it’s such a shame that they fucked over the de facto finale so badly by draining the studio of their project budget.
    .
    And yeah, using the periods as poor man’s paragraph breaks for lack of a functional {br} or {p}. No idea why these tags aren’t supported while other less useful tags are but whatever.

  8. Bradley on June 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm said:

    ufotable and Aniplex is clearly intentionally doing this “graphic” and “plot” issue to make the BD sell more. Wouldn’t be surprised if some episodes or so will be 30-45 mins long coz of the loads of cuts they have done this season.

  9. Cyrill on June 17, 2012 at 4:33 pm said:

    @Bradley
    We all be happy if it would be so, but I’m veeery sceptical about that

  10. black_lightning on June 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm said:

    So… much… awesome… in… a… 24min… episode

  11. Tsuru21o on June 17, 2012 at 5:46 pm said:

    First episode where I’m pretty disappointed, no real description of Avalon being used, no Emiya, Saber vs Lancelot totally gutted. Even the animation quality of Kotomine vs Kiritsugu was off, which is just strange.

  12. Bradley on June 17, 2012 at 6:03 pm said:

    @bradley
    maybe not all will be fixed, but at least there are some improvements, or at least we hope so.

    I’m guessing lots of rants about this episodes are filling up in ufotable’s emails and mailboxes right now. lol.

  13. Bradley on June 17, 2012 at 6:03 pm said:

    “@Cyrill”

  14. Gilgamesh King of Heroes on June 17, 2012 at 7:02 pm said:

    [spoiler] Wedding rings? Who needs wedding rings when you have wedding swords? [/spoiler]

  15. Solitud on June 17, 2012 at 8:13 pm said:

    I was hoping for the kotomine backstory before his death too, since I remember that being -somewhere- in the light novels. To me the anime version brushed over the whole kotomine vs. kiritsugu story at least from its more philosophical standpoint, dealing with their backstories.

  16. jusef on June 17, 2012 at 8:17 pm said:

    Holy FUCK let me tell you something.

    I’ve seen a lot of gruesome shit. Titles where lovable characters die in a horrible accidents, murders in cold blood, kids getting killed for no apparent reason…

    But the scene where Kerry shoots Ilya, her petite body hits the floor, and Iri WAILS and thrashes… Fucking hell, that scene chilled me to the bone. I think her voice actress deserves some kind of award for her play – it was nightmarish, full of despair and sorrow, and from that point even got better.

    Whenever I’ll hear her in other works, I would remember that one moment that shook me.

  17. Whoops, before I forget: TL suggestion for staff to implement for the BDs come September. When Saber says 「貴様は…そんな戯言に…私の聖杯を奪うのか!?」 at 20m12s, you guys translated what should have been “my Holy Grail” instead as “the Holy Grail.” It’s a small and subtle difference, I’ll totally grant you that, but I feel it’s nonetheless an important one. Part of what electrified this scene for me and I’m sure for a lot of other viewers was just how possessive Saber’s language indicated she was of the Grail, that it was the one thing she was not willing to give up to anybody. She’d lay down her sword, even her very life if it meant getting that grail and getting a chance to save Britain. Acknowledging the Grail was Archer’s possession was the one thing she was not willing to budge on, something foreshadowed at the Banquet of the Kings when she criticized Iskandar for pursuing the Grail in spite of the fact that he acknowledged Archer’s claim of ownership.

  18. Anonymous on June 18, 2012 at 1:51 am said:

    @Jusef
    “I think her voice actress deserves some kind of award for her play – it was nightmarish, full of despair and sorrow, and from that point even got better.
    Whenever I’ll hear her in other works, I would remember that one moment that shook me.”
    I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to watch an episode of Aria again. ;_;
    Truly heartbreaking scene and incredible voice acting.

  19. raidragon on June 18, 2012 at 2:43 am said:

    not too mention Saber sounds like she’s getting raped when she “yamerouuuuuuuuuuuu”……lol then I got the weirdest boner

  20. MiiMii on June 18, 2012 at 3:23 am said:

    That was a great episode!

  21. kira824 on June 18, 2012 at 5:13 am said:

    sorry is something wrong with the video?b/c when played the file, video doesn’t match with translations… Thanks

  22. David on June 18, 2012 at 7:30 am said:

    @ jusef: You nailed it….if there was one thing I was incredibly impressed by it was that moment. I absolutely cringed when I heard her grief for “Ilya” despite the fact I knew neither Iri nor Ilya were “real” – they were just some form the grail took.

    I still standby my earlier comments that this episode was handled pretty badly; It felt as if they cut pasted segments of scenes together. I agree with Cyou that it seemed that Lancelot dying triggered Kariya’s death and not the other way around.

  23. bejita7 on June 18, 2012 at 1:27 pm said:

    Holy Grail and HOLY SHIT O_O
    Thanks for ep.

  24. Arashi_Leonhart on June 19, 2012 at 12:47 am said:

    >HOLY SHIT

    “Your assessment is surprisingly accurate.”

  25. leo@uhw on June 19, 2012 at 5:10 pm said:

    So, either UTW banned me or my country (or both), or my country banned UTW. I can’t access this site anymore if it isn’t through a proxy.

    So anyways, it this show gonna have 25 or 26 (25 + special/ova) episodes?

  26. NateRiver on June 19, 2012 at 8:40 pm said:

    were they dueling in the bat cave? lawl

  27. TheAnimeLurker on June 20, 2012 at 1:09 am said:

    Dude… Epic episode of F/Z… Lol, Kerry… Nice way to celebrate Father’s day, for sure! To kill your entire family to save six (Seven, maybe) billion people…. This series is the first anime series to be divided by ZERO ever! Way to epic….

  28. BaconMushroomMelt on June 20, 2012 at 4:47 am said:

    @raidradragon
    ಠ__ಠ

  29. Bradley on June 20, 2012 at 7:36 am said:

    How awesome is this if this was Shirou vs Kirei in Heaven’s Feel.

    @NateRiver
    Yep. The handbook from the BD of season 1 mentioned that they used the Dark Knight theme unto Fate/Zero. I guess this is their way of tribute to the movie.

  30. What’s the song in the scene when Archer talk to Saber?

  31. nice..i totally agree

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