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Many of you have been wondering if we would continue to sub this show with CR picking it up. The team decided when CR made the announcement that we would drop the project if the CR subs were of competent quality; they turned out to be excellent.
We have thus decided to drop this project until further notice. Please rest assured that those of you who are following the show are in good hands with CR subs. Included in this release is our translation of the OP/ED, which we invite CR ripping groups to make use of.
Maybe we’ll pick something up in its place, or perhaps we’ll have to wait until the Summer season to join forces again. Who knows?
Can you sub Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Boku-tachi wa Mada Shiranai, if no one picks it up please?
=)
Noooooooouuuzzz!!!!
Damn you, UTW, damn you…
I was really looking foward to this and now have to watch the show under shitty raws. (don’t even will talk about the timing)
I hope you guys pick another spring anime, or if you don’t want that, at least pick a hentai, just to make me “come” to your site once in a while.
But Crunchy’s audio is absolutely terrible. 🙁
i aint getting this under your name anymore then. meh. thanks anyway. try again next season guys.
I’m sad to read that! We’re in the hands of CR and their raws are shitty, they really get some serious problems with timming and the audio I don’t even have to talk about.
I’m really sad, this anime would be the best of this season. And now it’ll be no more, ’cause they will destroy it in all possible ways. 🙁
Pick up Kaiji! Everyone would love you for it…
It’s the right thing to do, CR’s releases are getting better by the season. Hope you decide to pick something else up, I love you guys.
Am i the only one having problems with the torrent file?
oh wait…is there even a torrent since you aren’t taking up the show? why have a link in the first place then :S
awwwww… i was really glad looking forward that you were gonna do this show. 🙁
i sure hope you guys will have a change of heart, and not drop it.
(Sigh) I’d prefer you guys to CR simulcast, but I guess it can’t be helped then. Looking forwards to whatever series you decide to pick up next. Hurry, I’m dying waiting LOL ^^
Hmm what a shame. Oh well, your decision to respect CR’s subs is admirable since it IS kind of redundant to sub a show that they pick up and do a good job with.
Seriously, this is the god-damn first time you let me down, guys.
If it’s UTW, I can rely on quality releases.
For Crunchyroll the mindfuck is something to be expect from the first minute on (and sometimes it even happens in that first minute already).
So no, I’d love you to continue. The quality of the CR rips lacks, the styling is often totally offturning and all that.
I don’t want one of the few shows I was looking forward to be dumped down into the hands of ripgroups…
There’s nothing wrong with CR subs, it’s just that their raw/TS was garbage for this first ep. Hopefully they fix that next ep or it’s time to start muxing shareraws :/
@ARA8: Just you, the torrent works fine (for me and others it would seem).
Also on a side note.. did the Fate/Stay Night symbol always look like that?
No crunchyroll where I live. Shucks ;_;
You just F*cked up all non-english fansubs, since we can’t use (properly credited) the english translation from CR due to having to pay if we want to watch the whole anime or even download it to watch it better.
CR utterly s*ucks for non english users, since it makes all releases late (not to count licence, I can’t even see it there b/c it’s licenced)
And yes, I’m angry.
To bad, I guess i’ll have to watch the Horrible subs version from now on
seriously, this made my day terrible, why make us disappointed, geez, this is uncalled for, and i can’t explain my rage and disappointment right now, thanks anyway, fuck, and damn >.<
“due to licensing limitations, videos are unavailable in your region.”
Woo, isn’t Crunchyroll fantastic?!
🙁
I hope you guys pick up something amazing to make up for this. ;P
Just get horriblesubs version or one of the remuxs if you are that worried about video quality. no need to yell at utw.
I am so depressed about this lor =( UTW YOU GUYS ROCKING and I just want you to know that CR can never compare to you guys (and of course Mazui) XD keep up the good work
” Please rest assured that those of you who are following the show are in good hands with CR subs.”
cool story bro, though they have good enough translation but the encodes are just….I can’t even begin to explain how they manage to screw it up so badly and that they already have the authority to get a decent raw from the companies who made the show…WTF…you people might as well go hibernate or something…but I’m sure you wouldn’t manage to get a decent show next season too coz CR is going to license it, but before you do….where are the Amagami BDs?
You know, I already said I’m from a non-english fansub. And this is the worst news ever! From where I come from, there’s no problem if two subs translate the same show. Because this is for the sake of the anime fans. So we let them choose which one they prefere. This is called respect, you know? And what you’re doing with Crunchy is called monopoly. Too sad, really. But thanks anyways, you did a great job in the first ep.
Man, do you people whining about typesetting/video quality stop to think about shit for even a moment? There will be releases encoded from Transport Streams with proper typesetting and whatnot that are going to use the excellent CR translation as a base. That’s a goddamn given. Most likely they will be out as fast or even faster than what UTW-Mazui could provide from week to week.
I agreed 100% with this person who wrote at Nyaa:
DarkChaplain
“Still won’t make more people watch Crunchyroll the official way. (UTW dropping Steins;Gate, she/he mean)
*sigh* hopefully there will be a decent BD-group picking it up one day, so we won’t need to rely on HorribleSubs…”
CR could never be compared with the hard work from decent fansubbers. It’s a shame to depend only on Horrible Subs.
Thanks but no thanks.
At least we’d get consistency from a real subgroup instead of deciding which one of the trillion new ripgroups has the least embarrassing typesetting.
I hope you guys pick up something new then. Though I guess more free time for you guys wouldn’t be too bad.
Anyway, can anyone tell me if there are any other subbers working on this? We don’t have crunchy here so help would be appreciated.
and the hate begins…remember what happened to m.3.3.w and other groups?.guess you don’t. so this is basically the end of another good fansub group.
guess I’ll have to wait for commie or doki for this show.
@Daiz
NO. I don’t.. sorry for not having a brain as good as yours. and the fact that you reacted to the comments made you an idiot…those are just comments and opinions of other people, you got to respect them.
Looks like Underwater-Commie will have to save this show too now.
btw, a comment on nyaa made me consider something else!
“UTW” or part of you releases Gosick under the Victorique-label, using edited CR scripts.
Why not doing the same for Steins;Gate?
Reducing work, still doing it for your followers and the fans actually have somebody that fixes errors and edits stuff rather well?
Dunno if you’d need the joint for that, but at least you can still please your follower base and its not as much of a weight on your shoulders anymore?
btw, I lol’d to see me being quoted while I was typing up there
I don’t see any reason why would I respect ignorant comments made by people who are completely oblivious to the current situation of illegal anime releases.
What’s the most important part of a fansub? The translation. CR does a damn good job at that, as UTW-Mazui is saying in this very post. There’s zero reason to waste hours of their time re-doing a job that has been already done great. In case of Steins;Gate, the translation is also a lot harder to do than on your average show due to all the lingo and terminology involved. The other aspects that CR fails at are a lot easier to do in comparison and there are plenty of good and established groups focused on working those out while using the CR translation. It’s nothing but your own stupidity if you ignore these and whine that some group isn’t doing a fuckload of redundant work.
instead of arguing, maybe try to convince daiz to pick it up with underwater.
Okay, I agree, crunch subs have come a long way. But their timing is just terrible. JUST TERRIBLE! *has flashbacks to re-timing their subs*
I really hope you reconsider dropping this…
I can’t even watch Crunchyroll, so fansubs are my only source for subbed anime.
If you don’t take it up again, I guess I’ll have to agree with random…
no more glorious 720p
Can you guys just restyle it, if that’s the case. Like what you did with GoSick?
sad…
Well, looks like i will be dropping the show after this episode until further notice(meaning until someone else subs it). Im just not going to watch CR. Im sorry.
Thanks for doing this episode at least by the way:)
Underwater-Commie will do this show? Please, give me some hope and dreams!
/Yumekui Merry cote
you really are an idiot aren’t you??? what I was trying to say is that everybody has their own opinion… and you got to respect that…your basically making an enemy out of everybody that has posted a comment here…and guess what, fansub is not just about the translation anymore its a product of hard work of people who love anime that they are willing to spend time of their precious life trying to deliver the most out of a show.
For fuck’s sake people, just go to Commie in the future. They’re covering this one AFAIK.
You sound like a bunch of spoiled babies.
You guys are such drama makers. Doki confirmed that they will be doing this show and probably Underwater-Commie will release it as well since they subbed the PV.
You guys need to learn to appreciate an anime and stop bitching about everything that you don’t like, if you don’t like it then drop it and fuck off. Someone mentioned AnoHana, well that is also confirmed by Doki so they will sub it. There are several shows that are not subbed by any other groups such as Sengoku Otome, Pretty Rhythm (no group confirmed it) or Sofuteni. So choices are, depends what you guys wish to do.
as Tk said “Get Chance and Luck”
>respect
>internets
Now who’s being naïve?
Again, while I am not a staunch supporter of CR by any stretch of the imagination, I do respect your decision…
I also vote for you guys picking up Kaiji. One of the most anticipated shows of the season and of all the groups in the world, Nutbladder is the one that’s subbing it. The same Nutbladder that traumatized me with their handling of Arakawa Under the Bridge.
Honestly, if Commie does another joint with Underwater for this show,
I’ll stay as far away as I can after reading Daiz’ comments on here.
I won’t support groups that are so full of faggotry as to on one hand promote their stuff and on the other piss about those who don’t want to go with ripgroups.
So it still is a Thanks but no Thanks. Underwater’s gonna be another no-go for me.
Everyone is well aware of daiz’ faggotry thank you Chaplain.
Personally I’m glad I don’t have to suffer through a Mazui joint for this show.
Thank you Crunchyroll.
Again, I agreed 100% with DarkChaplain hehe.
I guess I’ll go look for Doki then.
Please sub Hanasaku Iroha then if you can, I really love the first ep.
Don’t see why you’re leaving this to CR though, they’re horrible compared to you guys. If the cause is something else you can just tell us.
So fucking tired of these faggot moralcunt fansubbers. HURR DURR CR SUBBING WE’RE GOING TO BITCH OUT fucking incompetent fucks.
What noooooo Q_Q I don’t like CR arghhh
That’s too bad, but I shan’t complain too much. Hope you find something else to do with Mazui this season — I love both your teams’ reliability, and the silly comments you post with the ep snapshots. =P
@FuckCrunchyroll
sup dudestar.
It’s called ripgroups, people. Tons of them out here. Restylers too.
@Ignition
Hanasaku Iroha is in good hands, the CR translator for it was a translator for Eclipse, and there’s Underwater-Commie if don’t want HorribleSubs and karaoke. Alternatively, Hatsuyuki-Tsuki.
Lol at all the rage. So a show is dropped. Move on. Fansubs is a privilege, not a right. Some other group will pick it up if you can’t go with HS.
http://www.ggkthx.org/2011/03/28/why-gg-doesnt-sub-simulcasted-shows/
gg’s infamy aside, koda put out some good reasons why groups like UTW drop simulcasted anime. Ignore everything past the second paragraph, I guess.
MORE RANTING:
@FuckCrunchyroll
>ignorant people’s opinions
>respect them
And what? Reacting to people’s comments makes someone an idiot? What?
I just realized how my comment wasn’t organized according to order. Oh well. Btw, grammar mistake. “and there’s Underwater-Commie if you don’t want HorribleSubs and prefer karaoke and OP/ED translations.”*
Commenters like these are the reason why people disable commenting.
Nec audiendi qui solent dicere, Vox populi, vox Dei, quum tumultuositas vulgi semper insaniae proxima sit.
Aw well, shit happens, love your subs and hope you pick up something in its place.
Well thanks anyway, I guess. This is the first time I’ve been disappointed in UTW, although disappointed is really the wrong word because that implies that UTW owes me something.
Stay groovy UTW.
just die already like all groups did
somebody need to make europe based group who doesn’t give a fuck about cr
Nooooo! I thought I could watcht this show with your subs…
But I don’t completely understand. You already said before that CR subs weren’t that bad, but you still wouldn’t drop it in the updated april fools post.
You also have many more torrent downloads than the horriblesubs.
@Ovindel
The CR translation was excellent, thus why all parties agreed on dropping the show because it was a waste of man-hours to translate something that is already getting an excellent translation.
@lolfags
Nobody gives a fuck about CR, they give a fuck about wasting their precious free time on doing work that’s already been done extremely well.
Randomness..
“Selamat Pagi!” \= w=/
Well if you guys say CR is comparable to your quality then I suppose it’s all good then. Still….my bias is still UTW > CR lol. Just don’t die off…we want you guys around even if it’s just for a show or two.
@ar
aren’t you going to do here what you did w/ Gosick?, looks like people here will tend to favor also that
I agree with Faggotry lol. It’s funny how they don’t drop shows due to another fansub but when it comes to CR it’s a different story.
>another fansub
says it all right there lawl
@Diaz: If the most important part of a fansub is the translation we might as well just read the script and save ourselves the time it takes to watch the anime, right? As far as I’m concerned, and I know I’m not the only one, the video/encode quality, timing, etc. are just as important. It’s the whole package, and they can use the CR translations if they want to. That’s why I don’t watch CR or HorribleSubs; That’s why I stick with UTW/Mazui and others.
TL/DR: I don’t give a damn how good the translation is if the video quality sucks, so stfu and give me back my great fansubs.
Well you guys at least do the DVDs or BDs when they come out then, if only because Crunchy doesn’t do that stuff?
anyone no who else is subbing this anime would rather piss on cr then look at there crap
@Zwei
Unfortunately I don’t have enough free time to pick up another show for the most part on my own. I have work during the week and I have BD projects (UTW and my own) to work on when I have some extra free time. I appreciate that Raze gives me a hand with Gosick every week because doing it on my own would take even longer.
The only other show I really wanted to pick up was Maria+Holic: Alive, but since neither Raze nor Moshi are really interested in it, it’s too much to ask to have anybody translate something they plain don’t enjoy (and 450-500 lines of that each episode) in their free time.
@mousee If they are so tight about squandering their “man-hours” why bother competing with a group like Doki?? At the end of the day it’s a load of bullshit tbh 🙂
the only thing going for crunchyroll are translations.
you guys make me sad…
To paraphrase the AMV Hell 4 open:
“CR is the cancer that’s killing fansubs..”
– Fact of life
Time to find a job and stop watching anime
so 2 of my fav subgroups arent doing a show this season >:(
feels bad man.
@This is getting old…
Doki who? ;>
Then you should consider change the name of the fansub from UTW to LTW (Limited Translation Works), since you got limited by CR translations -.-
at least doki isnt succumbing to dropping shows
@This is getting old…
Implying Doki wasn’t already picking this up, along with every other show. hahaha
The only “load” is in your pants man 🙂
@mechoz
That’s only because Holo (doki leader) still thinks he can become rich from fansubbing (and thus why they release 9001 shows per season).
Doki as in “the fansub heroes of the spring season” ^^
those fucker UTW becomes more and more faggot .
@This is getting old…
Don’t you mean “the mistranslation heroes of the spring season” ( ???)???????????? ? / ?/ ??
Any chance of you guys picking up something like Dog Days ?.
I know another groups subbing it, but there translation is god awful.
Who is CR?
Seriously, I don’t know them.
@Daiz
why don’t you translate then ? STFU nigger
thanks a bunch, i was waiting very long for this:3
Daiz says:
April 6, 2011 at 4:33 pm
@This is getting old…
Don’t you mean “the mistranslation heroes of the spring season” ( ???)???????????? ? / ?/ ??
Well, at least they have guts to do it and don’t get down on their knees because of shitty Crunchy…
@DaftMink: Don’t tell me that gg is working on it. 🙁
Too bad that UTW decided against continuing to work on this show. 🙁
Might I ask who is the CR translator that is working on it?
Aoi mentioned that the Iroha translator was a former eclipse translator. Such information helps a lot.
Does the Steins; Gate CR translator have any past experience subbing similar shows? Did he play the game? Any other info?
I mean is the translation really that good/accurate?
Or is it troll gg liberal/americanized with honorifics omitted and reverse name order? Does it have the same style of translations what we’re used from fansubbers such as mazui, UTW and doki?
Oh well, no biggie. Guess I’ll switch to Horrible Subs for this one then as I have no other source where I could get them from. As long as I have any subs, I’m fine I suppose. :3
Am I the only CR premium member here so I’m not bitching about “oh now I lose the video quality”? If I want supreme quality I’d wait for a blu-ray and buy that… otherwise to me once it’s in 720p on a stream or a fansub it’s all pretty damn close together. Now if it was Funimation we were talking about… even their video gives my uncaring and untrained eyes cancer.
Really though I agree with not subbing simulcasts in the first place, there are 16 other shows, at least that I’m interested in, this season that aren’t being simulcasted. Any good fansub group that picked up one of those titles would be far more appreciated than those wasting their time on a simulcast… except if it’s funimation, fuck them.
Anyway sorry to hear that you can’t pick up anything else but it’s understandable. If you’re not going to enjoy translating it’s going to turn into a chore, and if you’re busy then those chores tend to not get done. I always enjoy what you all put out, so hopefully we’ll see you again in the Summer. Thanks!
It seems some people really don’t comprehend that CR’s licenses don’t cover the rest of the world, so allow me to say it
Even if CR picks it up, it’s still not available to the whole world.
So explain to me, why is CR a good alternative to fansubs?
Crap, the one thing that other crappy groups will not have is the great encoding quality of UTW releases. Even if UTW was to just rip the CR subs I would still take there release due to the better quality of the actual file. The other issue is that CR does not integrate into XBMC at all and requires internet so I can not enjoy the new episodic when I am out of the country or in the air, on a train ect. If CR produced quality work that was available for download I would pay for it and enjoy it. However they do not. So instead I am forced to watch horrible subs with terrible encodes who also have no rss feed on there crappy site so you can not easily track there releases.
So why not just use the CR subs if they are so good and still release a nice encode for your fans. The reason a lot of people are sad is not because they hate CR so much. It is because they love UTW so much and have faith in the quality work that UTW produces.
@darpdrg
There are several CR rip groups you can download. Also, in this day of technology, VPNs or proxies are easily acquired if you wish to legitimately watch on CrunchyRoll.
As to your question of “why is CR a good alternative to fansubs?” if CR is not available to the whole world. It’s pretty simple. The majority of fansubbers are people who work, have school, and don’t fansub all day long. Even if CR isn’t available to the world, to many fansubbers, it’s not worth releasing a show to only get < 1000 downloads (arbitrary number, depending on the group). To put it simply, the majority of fansubbers are within CR license areas and the majority of fansub downloaders are within CR license areas. It's just not worth it for the 1% of people who aren't.
I don’t get it. You guys don’t SPEAK Japanese, how exactly do you know CRs translation is bad? I have a perfectly good muxed .mkv with CR subs, and HD video. What more do you want? Oh, the OP/ED aren’t subbed. Big freaking deal.
This is why HorribleSubs is the best thing right now. I understand the reason for dropping projects, but people from the rest of the world get screwed because of this. Even when a simulcast can be watched in other countries, you still need to have an international credit card, good bandwidth and other stuff.
I appreciate all the work you guys put in your releases, though. Could you release blu-ray revised versions of shows that you drop because of CR, maybe? That would be awesome.
Or, hey, maybe they’re just being little entitlement faggots. Most of the people in here don’t actually give two shits about UTW, as evidenced by their rabid dog responses the moment their munchies are taken away.
Wow… this is getting good.
Give me a violin!
Guys, even if you don’t like this choice of UTW, give them credit for what they already did!
Even if they don’t take a spring anime, at least who get ___ar’s Gosick, which is awesome!!
Anything you decide is good by me. Thanks for all the lovely subs thus far and i hope you’ll continue on other shows. 🙂
as for CR, yeah, I noticed over the last two seasons that their translation quality has become surprisingly good. and they are improving in regions restrictions. still not available many parts of the world though. 😐
but i would still go for fansubs for the time being. may be to doki. Already following a couple of shows from them and their work is excellent.
Thanks again UTW (and Mazui of course). You guys rock. 🙂
@darpdrg: If it’s not available in your region just download one of the billion other subrip groups.
we*,damn it! WE! Not who!
Seeing as I hate it when I have a anime from more than one subgroup, to Horriblesubs I go! Lol. Shame to see the amount of stuff your subbing this season plummeting, I really do enjoy yours over a lot of other groups (damn it >_< )
~Larnu
UTW I would reconsider not dropping this show because of CR especially since the quality they use thus far has very bad audio and I’m sure I would prefer your edited script which you guys encode like you guys do with Gosick.
Hey.
I thought you kept subbing index because you had enjoyment with fansubbing and with the joint, not because no one else was doing it. I guess I was wrong, as I see from this post. If fansubbing for you isn’t a hobby or isn’t personal enjoyment, what is your take on them? Some half-assed commitment?
Get some dose of good/common sense. I’m not going to say “Pick this up again!” like hundreds of other people already said, I’m just going to say outright that your reasoning is dumb. this is not some kind of battle you can’t win. It’s not even a battle. It’s restraining your own hobby because someone is doing it as well.
I’m just leaving my 2 cents in here. expect the worst, hope for the best!
Horriblesubs does somewhat different mkv files as these are the only ones my TV can’t play 🙁 Any other CR Rip groups?
THC4k. AFAIK. No TV can play .mkv files. lol.
@the person who asked if CR was liberal/americanized
Well the name order was kept, honorifics omitted. I don’t really care about honorifics, but there’s bound to be a group that takes CR’s script, edit it a bit, release it in glorious 720p with their own encode. So it’s either wait or go with HS.
This was one of the few shows that I really wanted subs for since it’s so hard to understand otherwise.
The CR script isn’t quite as good as Mazui/UTW is making it out to be IMO, but it is, at the very least, 9001 times better than Ika Musume.
Yeah, just die. Give us our fansubs, because we deserve them. CR? Fuck them. They can die. You now have an obligation to give us high quality subs, and we demand it. Do it or else.
Seriously, people, quit your damn whining. They are vouching for the CR subs. Do you not trust them? Then why do you want their release? Get over it. It’s completely pathetic how often people complain about fansub groups dropping simulcasted shows like…yeah, like it’s their right to have fansubs or something.
My issue with this is that crunchyrip group so far as horriblesubs have very bad audio like static noise, can’t believe fansub groups are dropping cuz of of ripping groups. 🙁
@RedFox:
It’s not about the subs that they’re complaining, but about how they dropped it to the hands of ripping groups.
@Kaidaten
I know: “It’s completely pathetic how often people complain about fansub groups dropping simulcasted shows like…yeah, like it’s their right to have fansubs or something.”
Interesting anime. Very unique.
The audio quality is REALLY bad on the CR one, you can actually hear loud static noise the entire time :/
Now that I have actually checked out Horrible Subs release, I must say that it’s terrible. That static noise in the audio gives me ear cancer. Lol.
I can only try and encourage you guys to keep this project rather than dropping it. And hope that you’ll decide against your decision and make some high-quality releases, like we’re accustomed to. 😉
Would the capper for this be willing to give transport streams to a group that wanted to pick it up w/ crunchyroll’s scripts?
Please don’t drop. I’ve always preferred your sub than CR, not only about TL quality, but the style (font, color, align, sign…etc.) and also video/audio quality. I don’t know and don’t care how good CR is. Just please don’t drop Steins;Gate. Furthermore, CR isn’t available in France. :((
I’m seriously hoping this is another (albeit late) April Fools joke. When I saw you guys picked up this show with Mazui, I was excited. Certainly not everyone likes CR. Please reconsider your decision if you fellas are serious about this.
Look… you idiots… you don’t HAVE to watch the CR video. There are 9001 raws on the internet, get one, use CRs subs. Hell, you don’t have have to do THAT, you can just dowload an already muxed episode.
Well, I would prefer your subs instead of CR but it’s your decision. Anyways, thanks for the OP/ED, we will thankfully use it.^^
I understand your decision but it won’t help those where CR is just unavailable. So even if I decided so support the industry I can’t because of licensing issues. Just like for example with HULU. Anyways guess I have to resort to Horrible-subs.
Ooops, typo. “even if I decided TO support” :p
@ar
OK, I understand the CR translation is actually good. I understand your point of view now.
I gotta agree with most of the users here.
The CR subs are generally quite good, but due to licensing issues I’m stuck with Horriblesubs. And I don’t trust those guys. Sometimes they release eps where the subs for half of the episode are gone, and other times their torrents doesn’t work correctly, resulting in a failure when I watch the episode using PS3 media server.
Now, I’ve only watched one show of your releases (Fractale) and that was class act through and through. Not the actual show, mind you (it was rather disappointing) but I never, ever had any problems with the releases themselves.
I have no problems with CR translations…. its everything else about CR i have issues with. The video quality is fine as long as there is not too much action or rain or if the scenes are dark. If any one of those things happen video quality then sucks. Audio quality has always sucked for CR releases.Now I am not a FLAC fag but I do want decent sounding audio not shit from a gramophone.
So in short please don’t drop this.
[spoiler]I wish Eclipse would pick up this project[/spoiler]
CR video quality sucks!
I can understand that they do not want to waist time translating something that is already translated just fine. However it would be awesome if instead they would just toss those subs on a good raw for those of us with less skill. This way we can still get a quality release.
Please pick Shouwa Monogatari, Danball Senki, Pretty Rhythm: Aurora Dream or Sofuteni up.
@ZERO: I downloaded that HorribleSubs-Remux-NFR version and while the annoying background sound of the original HorribleSubs rip was gone, I couldn’t play it on XBMC. In other words: Both HorribleSubs versions of the first ep. suck for me.
@Aoi: I doubt that any group will pick it up and add honorifics, OP/ED subs and anything else that is possibly missing. Maybe Coalgirls if they release the Blu-ray rips. So yeah, sucky anyway, since who knows what else Crunchy will omit, because it doesn’t fit into their “way of subbing”.
the CR subs suck >_>
This ruined my day ;_;
Damn, there are a lot of unappreciative assholes out there. UTW, Mazui, et al don’t owe you shit, and it isn’t their problem that you’re all too weeaboo to find and appreciate the other avenues of enjoying licensed anime. Of the complaints, honorifics? Seriously? For karafags, by translating the OP/ED, UTW and Mazui already did every CR-ripping group a favor. With or without effects, I don’t know, but their translation is better than nothing (or everything).
UTW and Mazui obviously have brand-name appeal for being having consistently high-quality speedsubs, but they don’t, however, have a history of ripping CR subs and muxing them into a .ts. __ar has been the only one to do this for GOSICK (for which I am very, very grateful, by the way). Everyone is going to have to grab their videos elsewhere, and I implore the ungrateful douchebags to give other groups a try… just not Doki. Unfortunately, I know the majority will just continue to bitch at __ar and Daiz for being the only rational commentators in this thread.
@ boingman what was the problem you had trying to use XBMC? Also are you running the latest 10.1 version?
The CR version completely sucks! I looked so much forward to you subbing this excellent series !
Get this up again, the Audio of CR/HS is so damn crappy
Jewelpet Sunshine BEGS to be subbed.
Well, I respect your decision, although it does make me sad because HorribleSubs’ release was ear cancer. Maybe they’ll fix the issue for next week. I hope you find something to pick up though, this season, because I think you guys are the best group out there right now.
As I said on Mazui’s site, CR subbing it is a bullshit excuse to drop, unless you only give a shit about american anime fans. For those of us unable to view CR what do you suggest?
Tbh I would prolly end up watching horriblesubs anyway as they are fast, reliable and not as bad as most people make out. However I find the attitude of sub-groups towards CR shows rather hypocritical! The whole idea of fansubs originally was to make anime available to those who couldn’t get it any other way, now it seems this only applies if you live in the states! Fuck the americans, what about the rest of the worlds otaku?!
Damn you… i wanted to watch it from you guys. Guess i’ll do it now.
most comments ever? idk.
but…
CRUNCHY ROOOOOOOOOOLL >:(_______)
@ZERO:
Correction, the [HorribleSubs-Remux-NFR] file of the first episode plays, but I hear no sound.
And yes, I am using v10.1 on a Win7 computer.
Since we’re talking about playback on XBMC:
With certain UTW releases, e.g. Amagami, Fractale, Gosick, the subtitles don’t play properly in the OP and ED.
Take a look at the subtitles on the upper part of the following screen shot.
http://img815.imageshack.us/i/gosickxbmc.jpg/
Is this because XBMC can’t handle more complex subtitles with multiple layers and karaoke effect? So far, I noticed that only on said UTW shows though, so what’s different compared to other fansub groups? Or is it just me?
Anyone else who is using XBMC and has the same karaoke subtitle OP/ED problems? How does it look on your setup, ZERO?
let’s go holiday! any plan on vacation? 😛
I dont want to watch CR version because of the crappy video quality. Why not just use CR subs but release with higher video quality and sound like UTW does with Gosick?
@user: ar already explained that he doesn’t have the time to work on it, since he already has enough on his plate with the Blu-ray releases and Gosick.
@boingman yea it looks the same on mine. I did not even realize it was not supposed to look like that I just figured the other words were repeated so you could easily read them at once if you did not want to sing along. I have never had any issues with audio though on xbmc. I wonder if there is a subtitle addon that corrects this. I am going to look for one now to find out.
@ZERO:
I doubt that there’s an addon, but who knows. If you find anything, please let me/us know.
I guess it has something with the codec’s that the XBMC developers are using. Probably not up to date when it comes to the displaying of subtitles.
I implore you UTW, don’t drop Steins;Gate. Many, many people would love it if you continued, I as well.
CR is no good, you guys are many times better and your unlocalized translation are greatly preferred.
*Somehow my post is not showing up so let me try this again (without link this time)
Yea, I will try to post a thread in there to try to get better sub support. My profile is ZERO
As I have over 350 series on XBMC I am very committed to creating the uber anime living room experience and I am often trying to get better support for anime related things in XBMC like show preview support studio listing on main page ect.
* Note that my profile on XBMC is NOT ZERO. The site here will not display my name correctly. It is ZERO left angle bracker (less than) ibis right angle bracket (greater than). Yes as in ZERO leader of IBIS Gaming.
Kinda disappointed, but you guys needed a break for a season or 2 :P, have a nice break!
Well, while I am kinda disappointed in the dropping, I won’t whine. You all are free to do whichever you want. 🙂
On the plus side, I suppose it works for me regardless, since I did not get much a desire to keep seeing this series from the pilot episode. :/ Was planning on giving it 2-3 more episodes, but no need now. XD
To dear UTW,
don’t know if anyone had said this yet.. > re-encode this anime using Crunchy’s sub. same thing like victorique for gosick. is that possible? I really think that Horriblesubs A/V quality is pretty bad.
I agree, Horrible subs have inconsistent video quality.
was there ever a time when a fansub group decided to go on hibernation ever recover? can’t think of any…you might end up just like ryuumaru and m.3.3.w who became lesser known groups. so if you ever decide to hibernate I guess that’s the end for UTW too. mark my word, please don’t go hibernate. and gg is not an example because hibernating and ragequit are not the same.
@dudestar
at least they’re doing gosick. and the hibernation post was april fools joke you dumb nuts.
why don’t you guys do oretach ni tsubasa? lousy groups are doing those, not even crunchy.
actually, _ar is the only one doing GOSICK if memory serves me correctly. UTW should pick up two project for us to be rest assured.
and
“For every joke there is always a truth behind it, there is always a part of you that meant it.”
– Anonymous
@dudestar
you’re really a dumb nut and a fag.
“UTW should pick up two project for us to be rest assured.” i lol’d.
Guess Commie for Steins;Gate then, inb4 >9000 delays.
Yo guys, please add SKET DANCE as your current project. CR is just a piece of shit.
can the other group use your fonts and styling you use in this anime??
UTW encode quality > CR rip group. please don’t drop Steins;Gate.
Profound Disappointment
@ZERO:
Okay, found your postings in the XBMC forum.
Commie has already picked up Steins;Gate (surprised they remembered to pick it up as it was in their future plans post a couple of seasons back). Let us enjoy both quality (and endless delays) so stop demanding from UTW-Mazui already and have them focus on other projects of their choosing.
@Kazuya Kujo
I watched the first episode and the show itself was terrible, so no.
So… who said that translation of CR is pretty good? IMO it’s damn awful. Just check it out personallY:
http://www.ji-hi.net/sp11/steins/
However, I still respect your decision. ;p
I respect your decision but if possible please pick up Steins; Gate again.
it’s too wasteful seeing such a good anime drops into the hands of such an inconsistent group.
translation from CR itself is sometimes inconsistent and random
while the encoding from HorribleSubs can sometimes be really horrible.
@Setton. Did I miss something? All of those were hardly any different.
@RedFox: I think he’s referring to CR’s lack of typesetting.
In addition, Crunchyroll’s encodes obliterate the original grain, thus leaving terrible banding as shown in the comparisons. Though that doesn’t have anything to do with translation quality.
what?! dropping Steins Gate? going hibernation mode?!
Not all of us like to watch CR or even know how…
Such a shame… UTW can’t quit not now… your in the spotlight right now 🙁
CR quality sucks compared to yours… DUN drop it 🙁
i would really like you to think of all the people who cant even watch crunchyroll or funimation official stuff because they live in europe, pleaaseee… plus, from what i heard the quality is really horible, we also want decent video and sound quality a leats for a jewel like steins;gate..
@Setton That comparison speaks volumes about the difference between fast releases and quality. This is why I wish more would realize it is really worth waiting for a quality release even if it is a day or so later. Personally I find that consistency in release dates is more important than just fast release times. Because at the end of the day if you really enjoy a show you will want to be able to see it in its full glory even if it means you need to wait a few days. This is also why if CR or anyone did produce quality work that I could also download I would be willing to pay $0.50 to $1.00 per episode which is quite a bit when you figure that I would be watching a few series. Although $100 per season may not last too long on my bank account…
http://www.whiners.pro/2011/04/fansub-review-commie-steinsgate/
Waiting for better groups….with better editors, lol.
Aoi: Interestingly and appropriately named website. The writer of that post basically spends it changing perfectly good English into somewhat worse, considerably more lengthy English. That, or complaining about slang, or changing the intended meaning/context of sentences. There might be some legitimate mistakes in there somewhere, but I couldn’t bear to read much of it.
Now, not to be as much of a fuckfaced asshole as he desperately tries to gain attention while being, but it seems to me that he’s rather furiously upset (possibly accompanied by pain in the bottom) about his group failing it, so he now spends his days, well, whining. Consequently, I cannot advise you pay attention to his scribblings, lest your mind rot as well.
Have a nice day.
Haha oh god, that review… what a moron. xD
Really, I’m glad at least Commie bothers to release proper episode, even if the subs happen to have bad grammar (for me whose native language isn’t English, I don’t even give a shit) – which I did not notice. Quite saddening that people are THAT picky when it comes to subs. Oh well, I don’t let myself bother by all these fansub wars and carry on enjoying my favourite anime~.
sigh, whining about translations, weaboos.
if you do know the meaning, watch it raw!
Acting like you know Japanese.
Knowing “kimochi-warui” doesn’t mean you know Japanese.
Aha, but really, Dark_Sage does give good reviews at times, if you see his other posts. And I know he doesn’t hold a grudge against Commie, cause if he did, he wouldn’t grade their Iroha release with an A(-). And I have to disagree with “perfectly good English”,(I use British English and American English, suck it.) About slang, I wouldn’t mind slang, but really? “Darn”? What is this, preschool? And his corrections does have better wording, IMO.
Mind you, I’m no fan of Dark_Sage or Whine-Subs, I just knew of their existence since a few days ago. I’m no native English speaker either, but I’m one big qualityfag. Flame me.
Saw I was getting hits from UTW. Came for the lulz and definitely received them.
U mad, Derpy-kun? Say, Derpy, someone of your intellect would surely be able to articulate what exactly you disliked. So far your comment reads:
* All fansubs have perfect English
* Dark_Sage has terrible English
* Dark_Sage’s writing style is too difficult to read
* Dark_Sage is upset
This isn’t exactly the best foundation on which to rest your argument. Ah, but I know! Who needs logic when you can instead cherry pick my reviews apart. I did a lot of things wrong, right? Come frand, give me a show. <3
Sounds like someone is butthurt ?(???)
You should totally do Maria Holic Alive!
For all the Commiesux fgts, here’s an alternative source:
http://steinssub.co.cc/
Dark_Sage: You appear to be able to write just fine, and as such, I can only assume that your misreading and disingenuous summarization of my post is intentional. I will avoid ccommenting on such nonsensical conclusions and straw men.
Since you asked, I braved through the rest of your post, and, as for what I disliked, well, that would be the reasonless anger and indignity. The pitiful demeanor does not help, either. The one real mistake, “if it had been,” and editing goofs “radio building”/”time cook,” are all there is of note. “Anyways…” and “Might be…” are clearly contextual slang/shortenings, and, on top of that, things people say all the time. Everything else is totally acceptable English. You might not like the way it’s worded, or maybe it’s too “hard” to read for you, but that doesn’t make it wrong. Your opinion is not fact, no matter how much you may believe it is. Perhaps English isn’t you first language, or you had bad schooling. In either case, you need to study a bit more before you will be able to effectively critique others’.
You remind me a lot of myself 4 years ago, when I was 14 like you, so I’d like to give you some friendly advice. People don’t like you. They like reading or hearing what you write or say about things they don’t like to make themselves feel more secure in their misconceptions. Make some real friends who aren’t over-opinionated zealots, your life won’t feel so empty.
Have a nice day, friend.
Would you mind copy/pasting that over to my site? I’ll gladly respond to you there. I find it a bit distasteful to be arguing over this on UTW’s site.
Do Tono to Issho then. Not even HorribleSubs is ripping that bugger, and I need my fix.
Dark_Sage: I find your courteousnesses gentlemanly, however I have no interest in returning to that unpleasant place, nor do I feel I’ve anything left to say on the matter, so I’ll have to respectfully decline.
My apologies to the staff or anyone else who may have found this unsightly as well.
UTW has went downhill after their announcement of an planned joint with GG. Only good releases they had were Amagami and FSN.
^
Obviously everything is gg’s fault. lol.
ar: ?(???)? Haters gonna hate.
Forget gg already. That was what, one episode?
crunchy or horriblesubs>> hope someone else picks it up.
@amen665: Commie and Steins;Sub.
@Dark_sage: picky bitch
So, the only two choices are Commie (sucks) and HorribleShit…
*sigh*
Too bad, really.
But thanks for that first episode.
And this is what we’re left with. It’s a shame because it’s such a good show.
http://i.imgur.com/Mbv4N.jpg
The release of «Commie» group somehow fails to support hardware acceleration by DXVA on my PowerColor HD4670 1GB DDR3 AGP, and «Steins;Sub» fails also (and additionally has some weird font that ends displayed as empty rectangles on my machine; seems they have forgotten to embed the font if its possible for the container). «HorribleSubs» encode is DXVA-accelerated, but that’s the only good thing I can say about it: they have no karaoke and terrible quality of sound (high frequency noise) and even video (visible torn gradients in dark areas).
Nothing to be even remotely compared with a typical UTW release.
However, I honestly believe you already have enough translation works in your hands for this season. Thank you for your great flawless rips of «Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai», and «Hidan no Aria», and «Gosick».